I have moved this to the White Magick/RHP category where discussion of religion is somewhat more tolerable.
I request people keep rebuttals courteous in line with forum rules and preferably based on personal experiences with these concepts and the cultures they engender, or texts regarding the religion, rather than insults towards OP personally.
Bold claims like the title invite debate and even rebuttals, but they’re hard to take seriously when they’re just mud-slinging.
Cheers! 
Yaweh would have been around as early as 6000 years ago depending on the source. Also, I didn’t mean equal as in literally the same deity. I meant as in status and level of power. Thought I should make that clear.
Yahweh and Jesus are two different entities, just saying (because of that thing of “2000y”)…
Also, some sources date from 6k years ago or more, as @DemonMonk says.
At least, but not less important, Lucifer and Satan are completely different entities too. Satan is not more (for bible and Torah) than the “adversary”, “rival”, and it’s not attributed to Lucifer at all… Instead, Satan (the bible concept, or the “Torah” one) comes from Persian’s beliefs. It was adapted from there, and it’s not related to Lucifer but to an “adversary of humanity” (not until apocalypse or the later church reviews that are only “Christianism propaganda”).
LaVey works on another concept of Satan, but that isn’t in discussion here. But even LaVey’s one isn’t Lucifer.
That said I believe you, @Kulina8, misunderstood all the “comparison” thing. Also, I believe that “comparison” is completely out of purpose since Lucifer isn’t the adversary but Satan is (again, bible concept, not mine). So, in that case, maybe the best “Ying” for “Yahweh Yang” side is Satan (again, in your comparison).
Lucifer is only a good being that was exhorted from heaven just because he was too good. All the fonts say (including Bible) that Lucifer was an angel of pure light, closest to the Yahweh (in the Torah mentioned as the creator of all), closer than Metatron! And other angels wanted to be more like him, so Yahweh exhorted him from heaven.
I’m using this Torah passage just to mention that not even the original text quotes Lucifer as a bad being.
Also, Apocalypse texts mention Lucifer as Satan, but that is on Church. In Torah, the inferno doesn’t exist. Satan isn’t a “being” but is more like every little thing that can detract people from “Yahweh path”.
So don’t need to be so upset. Lucifer is a great guy and even the Jews have no reason to doubt it. The great “sin” of him is to be too good. And even the Torah says that.
What church actually says about Lucifer is only propaganda. And all religions have that. Just let they run along with this. Christians aren’t the majority at all…
True,
they only have different depictions, mostly to scare the sheep.
Though I log in most of the time just to read your post, I have to disagree with you on this regard. Don’t know when you use the term ‘servitor- thought forms’ if you mean to say thoughts forms only created by collective humans through out our history or any living entity below casual realm- under the domain of mental realm? If the first then have to disagree. Laws of nature come first and then based on that human , or other form of life comes. Not the other way around.
Yes, he does. Everything specific/particular has. The only reason why most people don’t have or know his yantra is because most don’t know how to properly bracket/define him.
Yaweh can be contacted and one have him always on one’s side as a guide and loving companion, just like any other demon or spirit. In my tradition countless mystics from the devotional path had achieved that feat. The only thing is those were done through love and personal devotion/relationship, the spiritual path propagated by himself. Don’t know if it is possible to have him like that through forceful evocation.
Well actually servitor and thoughtforms especially collective ones have nothing so much to do with humans specifically as natural laws of how energy and thought congregate and bind together. When a magician intentionally does this he speeds the natural process empowering thought and energy to his will to form. Yet when you have many gods and beings their origin is as sentient manifestations of powers and ideas many of human origin or influence that gave a specific force and being a defined role while others existed formed by other beings or their own spontaneous evolution where you get really ancient ones with many many names. Servitor thoughtform analogies serve to help illustrate the concept. Even flesh and blood beings came from a similar process with organic slop that in time sorted and defined itself and then in many cases was defined intentionally or incidentally by other forces. Such as how dogs are a result of man’s influence upon wolves. So more unshaped raw beings while still sentient were in time changed to their modern incarnationd shaped by those who feed them and view them and dealt with them.
Good topic!! I just watched a video by the Order of the Cresent Moon and it opened my mind.
Here Yaweh was shown in a different light, like he actually gives a damn about humans and nature. He even referred to humans as Gods. After studying Magick, I learnt that both Lucifer and Satan have always had our backs. Satan is definitely a Lord in this Universe like sources have pointed out and Lucifer enlightens us.
The funny thing is if we combine the RHP and the LHP couldn’t our Magick be more effective? Heck by the looks of it Satan and Yaweh seem to just have a rivalry and it was asshole humans who destroyed the old ways and defaced our Gods. Perhaps these days we are just searching for an enemy.
Correct. Yaweh was a Storm god of the Canaanites, so it really is no more a thoughtform then Baal, considering Baal was worshiped by the same people.
Sort of. They falsely attributed the characteristics of El to his creation, Yaweh. What resulted is probably more like an egregore than a thoughtform, though.
Exactly. This is probably the biggest hang-up for magickians that I see on a regular basis. So many people are denying themselves tools in their kit because of a mistaken association between Yaweh and YHVH. The most common instance of this I see (regularly) is people wanting to modify the LBRP because they do not feel comfortable saying what they think are death cult associations. In the process of rejection, they miss so much that whatever version they come out with tends to be a weak imitation of the original, at best.
But saying the Canaanite Yaweh is the other polarity to the Lucifer is like saying Poseidon is the opposite polarity of Prometheus. In terms of historic references, it does not work.
But at the same time saying the egregore that resulted later is the polar opposite does not really work either, because they are only really ever compared by JCI people and similar. In other words, the reputations of the two are only in opposition because of the associations of the ‘faithful’. This is an ephemeral polarity at best.
This is ultimately, IMO, a result of the schism in Judaism after their captivity by the Babylonians. The rabbis went a little crazy during this time,and that infection spread. The Talmud is the result of this mental disease, and unfortunately continues to leave it’s shit stain to this day.