Little lifeforce great effects?

Friday morning I was at a boring working seminar so I decided to have some fun stealing the lifeforce of a guy sitting in front of me. I entered TG-sync and I started to see his aura. Then I simply breathed in his energy.
I did it only for some minuts.
Friday night I was full of energy, I went to a club and stayed there until 6:00 AM. I woke up saturday after having slept only 5 hours and I was still very active; I had a very intense day and finally the night I had problem sleeping. These aren’t my rhythms at all.

So I’m really surprised. Can just a few lifeforce have these massive effects?

[quote=“Widdershins, post:1, topic:4440”]Friday morning I was at a boring working seminar so I decided to have some fun stealing the lifeforce of a guy sitting in front of me. I entered TG-sync and I started to see his aura. Then I simply breathed in his energy.
I did it only for some minuts.
Friday night I was full of energy, I went to a club and stayed there until 6:00 AM. I woke up saturday after having slept only 5 hours and I was still very active; I had a very intense day and finally the night I had problem sleeping. These aren’t my rhythms at all.

So I’m really surprised. Can just a few lifeforce have these massive effects?[/quote]

I would say so yes. I only recently started feeding on energy. The first time I did it I targeted somebody at around 3am in the morning for about 15 minutes.

I woke up at 6am feeling like I had just been on holiday with three Playmates in my room to relax me for the night. In other words…I felt like a newborn after only 3 hours of sleep.

My sleep was exceptionally deep after the feeding, I could hear my own breathing as I was lucid dreaming. And again, I woke up with this ultra relaxed feeling that I only get very rarely throughout the year and only on 8hours + of sleep under normal circumstances.

By the way I have done a feeding on an older person recently after that person seriously pissed me off. I saw him again about a week later and he was talking about quitting his job as he was feeling extremely low on energy.

This stuff is real so I would recommend being ethical about it. :slight_smile:
Also I find the best feedings come from vital people, young people, those with a lot of life force in them.

Be very careful when feeding off of cursed people. I have done it twice and went ill once right after doing it. There were some on this forum who said “that’s impossible” or “vampires purify the energy automatically”…

Well…need I say more?

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I started to feed at the gym from very healty fitness-life-style people and I have to say it works a lot!

So in fact one of the objectives of Vampirism is indeed the effect of reduced sleep.

It’s more than that. Basically you are stealing “prana”. Lifeforce. You can use that for all kinds of things including to “pay” entities you are working with in rituals. Especially vampiric entities, they love this stuff.

On top of that, it is likely that you are surrounded by psychic vampires as are most people. You know…angry ex girlfriends, stupid bosses etc. They drain you of energy, so feeding prana is kind of compensating for that lack of energy that has been stolen from you.

It’s more than that. Basically you are stealing “prana”. Lifeforce. You can use that for all kinds of things including to “pay” entities you are working with in rituals. Especially vampiric entities, they love this stuff.

On top of that, it is likely that you are surrounded by psychic vampires as are most people. You know…angry ex girlfriends, stupid bosses etc. They drain you of energy, so feeding prana is kind of compensating for that lack of energy that has been stolen from you.[/quote]
I know little about vampirism other than through books.
What concerns me in theory about “feeding” is the impurity of the energy fed.
i.e. I don’t want any of their filth along with the “prana” so-called.
How much time is saved by feeding instead of raising one’s own power through good habits, good diet, sufficient rest etc. ?

I’ve heard of vampiric servitors which are programmed to feed and return energy.
How effective are those in comparison?
How much skill is required to program one of those as opposed to creating talismans and opening seals etc?

It’s more than that. Basically you are stealing “prana”. Lifeforce. You can use that for all kinds of things including to “pay” entities you are working with in rituals. Especially vampiric entities, they love this stuff.

On top of that, it is likely that you are surrounded by psychic vampires as are most people. You know…angry ex girlfriends, stupid bosses etc. They drain you of energy, so feeding prana is kind of compensating for that lack of energy that has been stolen from you.[/quote]
I know little about vampirism other than through books.
What concerns me in theory about “feeding” is the impurity of the energy fed.
i.e. I don’t want any of their filth along with the “prana” so-called.
How much time is saved by feeding instead of raising one’s own power through good habits, good diet, sufficient rest etc. ?

I’ve heard of vampiric servitors which are programmed to feed and return energy.
How effective are those in comparison?
How much skill is required to program one of those as opposed to creating talismans and opening seals etc?[/quote]

I’ve already said elsewhere that reduced sleep requirements do happen, but shouldn’t be counted on. Eventually you’re going to go into hibernation for a full twelve hours, the world be damned, to compensate for it. To compensate for a late night of drinking is one thing. To try to live perpetually on five hours of sleep isn’t going to happen.

Your “angry boss” and your “ex girlfriend” are not psychic vampires, and psychic vampirism is not about “compensation.” In any interaction between people, there’s an exchange, and chi will typically flow from the subservient party to the superior party (observation of this will ALWAYS tell you who’s truly in charge of any situation). Congratulations, you’ve just outed yourself as being controlled by your boss and your ex.

Psychic vampirism is the deliberate harvesting of chi. A psychic vampire, contrary to popular opinion, is not someone who engages in psychic vampirism, but someone who needs to engage in psychic vampirism to remain emotionally and physically healthy. As for the WHY, well, there’s tons of theories involving damaged chakras, otherworldly souls, fast metabolisms, emotional trauma, blah blah blah blah blah. Pick one, either after doing your own research, which ever one resonates with you, or at random.

I mean you no disrespect SoG, but saying you “know” about vampirism through reading books is like saying you know about sex from watching porn. While this might seem like a condescending statement, the fact remains that academic study of the subject matter is crucial to, ah… cutting your teeth… properly. One learns about sex by having it. Still, that sweet position you saw in Drunk Teens Gone Wild #48 might be worth a try.

The whole question of “taking in” another’s filth seems to be, in my experience, the defining question of whether or not one is in fact a vampire. A true vampire, for what ever reason (again, pick one and go with it), refines just about anything, like passing dirty water through a filter. The Pretender is the one to get sick from absorbing (rather than consuming) dirty chi. That’s not to say there’s certain types of chi a vampire won’t turn his nose up at, but the rage, the despair, hatred, lust, all of that, its like the afterglow of a fantastic orgasm.

Every enlightened vampire I know eats very well, is extremely health conscious, and yet… still needs to supplement.

Regarding servitors, again, I’ll say it: Using servitors to drain others and bring you back the refined results is lazy. Its like calling yourself a deer hunter because you buy venison from the butcher. In keeping with this metaphor, the true vampire lives for those heartbeats, so loud in his ear, as he sees that buck, and the world fades away, save the hunter and the prey. The real vampire savors those moments, and would never leave them so coldly to the machinations of thoughtforms.

Creed your remark is in error and offensive.
Please take a look again at what I wrote.

Most of the books about vampirism are rubbish “we are the chosen ones” type nonsense anyway.

Most of the books about vampirism are rubbish “we are the chosen ones” type nonsense anyway.[/quote]

Who said they aren’t. That may be.

You also seem to have an English comprehension problem and do not understand what I wrote in clear, simple English.

I think your statement was pretty clear that you weren’t claiming extensive knowledge from books, the bigger issue for me is whether there ARE any good books about this?

I can do the basics but I’d like to know more.

Also, while I’m on it, most legends indicate that vampirism is something done by the dead, or at least death-imagery features heavily - is there any evidence that some deathlike initiation, or maybe a brief state of being medically dead (as in no heartbeat) is present in people who become vampires through necessity?

I think your statement was pretty clear that you weren’t claiming extensive knowledge from books, the bigger issue for me is whether there ARE any good books about this?[/quote]

Some claim there are good books about this, such as Vampire Regeneration etc.
But that is a matter of opinion.
What is the reason for the lack of civility.

There aren’t any good books on the subject. A few beginner books stand out among the heaps of trash, but nothing gritty. The fact that every last author has to develop their own lexicon for even the simplest of subjects (including how to spell “vampire,” unfortunately) complicates things further.

For basics, Lono Vespertilio takes gold in my view in “Vampirism 101” with Vampire Regeneration taking “Vampirism 201.” Anything beyond that, find a spirit mentor. Tiamat, Lilith, Astarte are all good choices. The Online Vampire Community (OVC) might prove useful, though I never did find them worth a damn. The shit the OVC and every last damn random group of vampires will hold over your head until you’re “initiated into their order” or whatever is freely taught without hesitation by one of the above named spirits. They don’t have massive egos.

SoG, my statement wasn’t meant to offend, but I won’t apologize for it. It was meant to encourage you to go out and get your hands dirty. Maybe burn your fingertips while you learn something useful. As I’ve said numerous times, theorists and ivory tower types will never be predators. Go out into the bush and learn what it means to be a vampire, instead of letting your bruised ego prevent you from learning.

Eva, that’s a damn fine observation. Vampires are closely associated with Eastern European stories of Strigoi and the revenants, dead people who continue their existence by vamping the life force of the living, and possessing them. The vampiric associations with death are more seen on the “ascension” side instead of the “awakening” side.

The whole deal about immortality is to astral project upon physical vessel assuming room temperature, and to maintain cohesion of the astral body through feeding on chi. Then there’sthe whole “physical anchor” thing, that mirrors stories of liches binding their souls to rings and such, thus achieving immortality. One could also possess a human, “filling the vessel” so to speak, and continuing existence in that body.

I’ll spill more later, if there’s interest for it.

You have a strange rude way of expressing yourself.
I’ll continue to explore the subject at my own pace.

You have a strange rude way of expressing yourself.
I’ll continue to explore the subject at my own pace.[/quote]

Facetious. Pleasantly sardonic. Slightly curmudgeonly. Perhaps it comes directly from being a wampyre. In that case, pacing one’s self should be paramount. I certainly have enough going on without shattering my ivory towers all at once. Oh, hold on. That’s what I asked this super special demon to help me do.

Anywho, this makes a lot of sense as to why I can drain energy from only 2 very close beloved victims without feeling wonky. I’ve never gotten around to asking why it was added to my list of superpowers other than to be able to block them from draining me. What fun. Now, I want to play around with it again. I wonder what will happen at their demise. Hm. Well, regardless, fantastic information, I have to say! Many thanks. :slight_smile:

[quote=“Creed, post:13, topic:4440”]There aren’t any good books on the subject. A few beginner books stand out among the heaps of trash, but nothing gritty. The fact that every last author has to develop their own lexicon for even the simplest of subjects (including how to spell “vampire,” unfortunately) complicates things further.

For basics, Lono Vespertilio takes gold in my view in “Vampirism 101” with Vampire Regeneration taking “Vampirism 201.” Anything beyond that, find a spirit mentor. Tiamat, Lilith, Astarte are all good choices. The Online Vampire Community (OVC) might prove useful, though I never did find them worth a damn. The shit the OVC and every last damn random group of vampires will hold over your head until you’re “initiated into their order” or whatever is freely taught without hesitation by one of the above named spirits. They don’t have massive egos.

SoG, my statement wasn’t meant to offend, but I won’t apologize for it. It was meant to encourage you to go out and get your hands dirty. Maybe burn your fingertips while you learn something useful. As I’ve said numerous times, theorists and ivory tower types will never be predators. Go out into the bush and learn what it means to be a vampire, instead of letting your bruised ego prevent you from learning.[/quote]

That’s very interesting that you mention Astarte as vampiric as I never thought to think of her that way before. I know she is thought of as a goddess of love, and fertility. However, I hear that she has a war aspect and I guess that is somehow connected to the vampiric aspect of her maybe?

Funny thing is, I’ve been interested in vampirism a lot lately as well as lycanthropy and her name came through to me while I was asking another goddess for healing. When I connected with her,(Astarte) I found that she is VERY loving, sensuous, sexy, protective, wise, even playful, and yes she did show me her vampiric side a little. She was very nice and offered to give me protection, healing, advise, as well as other gifts :slight_smile: However, she did not have that sinister vibe I’ve gotten from Lilith/Agraht/Naamah.

Thank you for that insight Creed, as well as advice. I am looking into getting both vampire books you mentioned and just recently came across the Vampire Regeneration one before I saw your post. Now all I need is the other 101 book and then some quality time with beautiful Astarte.

[quote=“Creed, post:14, topic:4440”]Eva, that’s a damn fine observation. Vampires are closely associated with Eastern European stories of Strigoi and the revenants, dead people who continue their existence by vamping the life force of the living, and possessing them. The vampiric associations with death are more seen on the “ascension” side instead of the “awakening” side.

The whole deal about immortality is to astral project upon physical vessel assuming room temperature, and to maintain cohesion of the astral body through feeding on chi. Then there’sthe whole “physical anchor” thing, that mirrors stories of liches binding their souls to rings and such, thus achieving immortality. One could also possess a human, “filling the vessel” so to speak, and continuing existence in that body.

I’ll spill more later, if there’s interest for it.[/quote]

I’ve heard rumors that humans can ascend to godhood without having to worry about losing their physical body and can become multi-dimensional. But after hearing that last comment from you Creed, it sound as if there’s specific things that need to be done… Is this true? Or are you referring to spirits that are not human who have to find physical bodies in order to manifest physically.