Someone just sent me this song about King Azazel and the war in heaven, pretty interesting, what do you guys think?
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Could you give a context? I donāt think I could use it as ritual music. Where would you, personally, use this? It seems to lack any music depth, given the single voice and the way the message is presented.
Also, which part is most significant to you? How do you see it relating to others? I donāt believe in the āWarā in heaven, so Iām asking to try understand in what other ways it is useful. Is it useful for those of us that donāt believe the āFallā actually happened?
I donāt know you or your point of view, so Iām asking (painfully obvious) questions to discern this.
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Your response is a bit pretentious. Of course this is a form of ritual music, it channels a very powerful energy, raw and untainted. I havenāt seen anything like this, pretty original. Even if you donāt believe in a āWar in Heavenā itās still a great dramatic song if there was.
Also how do you not believe in the war in heaven? elaborate on that.
If you want to call upon Azazel, just play this songā¦ with offerings provided, ectā¦
Wasnāt trying to hurt your feelers there, Jariel. This song much less developed than most ritual music Iāve used or come across. I was asking why you thought it would be useful and who the target audience was. Simply that. Letās not get testy.
If I want to call on Azazel, I can go outside, with an honest intent, and nothing else, and speak to him (again). Which is why Iām asking. I like to learn otherās approaches and why they felt they were useful.
Edit - this is a song I use frequently in ritual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-TDu1F0ZTA
Iāve also used this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgdJp5DRQ90
Maybe that would give more insight into where Iām coming from with the music. Iāve used more upbeat music, but this sort is my mainstay.
Iāve used this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVVv1IDyihM to speak to Hiāiaka and Raphael, among others.
So, I would be interested in understanding how others use different music for the same thing.
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Thatās Christian dogma.
According to the apocryphal Book of Enoch, Azazel was not even part of the mythical war in Heaven. He and his fellow Watchers āfellā due to their interference with the development of humanity by teaching forbidden arts and having sex with women. As punishment for disobeying his charge, which, as their name suggests, was watching over mankind, he was bound in chains and cast into darkness by the archangel Raphael.
@Jariel Are you going to leave the question I asked you two weeks ago in your introduction just hanging?
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Well that could just be āEnochā dogma, everything is written by someone in history, bending to their own agenda and will. Every grimoire in history all has itās own take on any subject matter. Certain demon names have different pronunciations, different names to be said about one spirit, different tales, different rituals ect. Take everything with a grain of salt, combine it with your own ingredients and form your own believes.
In the occult, in my opinion, is there is no ārightā or āwrongā way, we are all free to believe what we want, magick is all intention, dedication and belief.
The point being, itās still a neat song, I donāt know why people are hostile itās great!
Maybe he was there in Heaven, crafting all of his fallen angels with the weapons to fight against Yahweh. Whether itās true or not is up to the beholder to decide. Plus, itās a great little write describing the chaos of war, hence itās rush & energetic vibe.
I must have missed your little response, Iāll seek I answer.
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Feelings werenāt hurt at all, your response just felt odd. How is it less developed? Maybe itās trying to be different from the others? It feels like this magician is channelling Azazel himself! regardless of your relationship towards him. The target audience is anyone I would assume thatās satanic, into the occult.
This hymn provides grimoire common knowledge, and educates the listener about these things if that person happens to know nothing about the occult. Almost like āEnter Balakā is sucking people into the occult craft. (Not testy in the slightest.)
The songs provided are okay besides the last one. Sure, those songs work to build up some sort of background music to your rituals. But Balakās songs get straight to the point, Itās just called having different taste, and some magicians are on different planes of power and awareness to others.
Ah, I believe I get what your intent is. I wonāt waste more time and energy. Best of luck.
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Yeah I recommend listening to some of 'Enter Balakās different hymns on Youtube, Itās interesting work regardless off your occult knowledge.
I donāt need indoctrination, thanks. Goodbye
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There just hymns, offerings I assume to those spirits, some really are great!
Anyway, ciao!
Iām close to Azazel and I wouldnāt personally listen to this during an invocation, I donāt feel like it gives me the right kind of vibes either since itās connected to the typical war stereotype. But thatās just me. If it works for you then great. I honestly think Azazel would be like a question mark If I listened to it while invoking him. What I personally think about this songā¦ you know that one priest that screams hallelujah give me an amen? Yeah itās just like that but demon edition.
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Exactly feeling that gap of providing Satanic Gospels to the masses! Regardless of other peopleās connection with said spirits, and prior information from grimoires.
This is my take as well.
Azazel brought me to the western occult path 3 years ago, completely outside of xtain-related folklore.
Iām completely against the idea that you need anyone else to āhelpā you talk to spirits or act as an intermediary, thatās how religions control people and not how the ascended work.
The linked song is about Balak not Azazel though? I think itās rubbish, since you asked.
Itās too intrusive and chatty for ritual, itās sounds are ugly and jarring and would distract you from TGS, you canāt listen to it as music since thereās no rhythm or melody, itās spoken word (as in, angry dude shouting for no reason spoken word) with industrial and electronic noises almost as loud as the words, and the dude just sounds like heās trying way to hard to be convincing.
It does make be want to punch something, I guess that makes it āartā lol. Good for ritual - as an experienced ritualist, itās definitely not for me. But some people listen to Black Sabbath during ritual, and I wouldnāt do that either, it takes all sorts. Iām more of an Apocalyptica person (jk, Iāve used one Apocalyptica song once for a very specific purpose, the rest of the time I use Shamanic Drumming for the TGS frequency).
I can see this being placed at a modern art fest with dancers wearing all white zentai suits and cliche horns pretending itās āsatanicā to have fun freaking out the xtains.
Yup, interesting you came up with that word - doesnāt describe @anon39079500ās reply since he was trying to give it serious feedback from a musical perspective - but it describes the āsongā perfectly.
Ok? Except that itās debatable about whether this view is correctā¦ Friendly reminder: preaching and dogma are against the rules here.
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Wow, ouchā¦ you guys bite hard!
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ā¦personally, I didnāt like it, but I think the killers - mr. brightside, u2s - vertigo, and coldplays - viva la vida are luciferianā¦oh yeah, n goo goo dolls - iris 
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You would probably appreciate Balakās art more if you were into metal. Itās very similar to that of Mercyful fate, if it was just spoken word and ancient instruments in the background.
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Possiblyā¦
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