Keeping yourself free of danger in the world of magic

I know its likely impossible at some point, but …

The storms we go through in life, if they are due to magic being worked against us by people we do or do not know, how do we establish a security perimeter for ourselves so we can get going and work on to our ascension?

Thanks,

Fuego

Do daily a ritual of protection and stablish a link with protective deity praying to him/her everyday. I pray to him anytime i jump into the car (name of god, protect me please. x3 times). I also do in hostile environments

I also tried a Pantacle of Mars, consecrated with a little prayer wich sends backs attacks thrown at me, results, great

Pick up protection and reversal magic beyond 101 by Jason miller…

I hope you realize that there will be times when you must suffer. Humans have never become better or evolved in situations where they are in constant comfort or security.

Btw these are the so called psychics attacks. Donald Michael Kraig talks of this in Modern Magick. I like the simple explanations of New Avatar Power + Mystic Grimoire by Geof Gray-Cobb (Frater Malak) and Carl Nagel’s Babylonian Sacred Words of Power. Both include rituals of protection/punishment

[quote=“YogaApprentice, post:2, topic:1428”]Do daily a ritual of protection and stablish a link with protective deity praying to him/her everyday. I pray to him anytime i jump into the car (name of god, protect me please. x3 times). I also do in hostile environments

I also tried a Pantacle of Mars, consecrated with a little prayer wich sends backs attacks thrown at me, results, great[/quote]

With the Pentacle of Mars, do you just open the pentacle ( a la E.A. Style) and just go from there? Or do you do anything else in addition to just consecration of the Pentacle?

I don’t honestly worry about being cursed or hexed or whatever. Most of the storms we go through are due to our own devices and choices. We often don’t see it because we’re convinced we’re always making good decisions. It’s easier to think that someone is out to get us than that we fucked our own situations up.

Unless you have real enemies who practice magick or they have friends/acquaintances who can work for them the chances of having a magickal attack aimed at you is really small.

Learn some shielding/protective work and integrate that into your daily practice and you should be fine.

“I don’t honestly worry about being cursed or hexed or whatever”

  • -TWF-

Well, with the “hat” your avatar is wearing…you are BEGGING for it!!!

First, more often than not, when one thinks they are being cursed, they are most likely causing it themselves. It’s not often that you, in particular, are the target of a magician of such scale that it will actually impact you. And when it does come, you learn how to deal with it.
as WrithingParasite points out, obstacles and suffering are natural growing pains in any field of study one wishes to advance. Whether it is magick, mathematics, physics, basket weaving, or Mormonism :stuck_out_tongue: However, that does not necessarily mean that it will be due to any sort of baneful magick. It will most likely be due to the natural consequences of your advancements.
Third, it’s as simple as this, if you think you’re unprotected, then you’re unprotected. If you think you’re protected, and consciously perform protection to the best of your knowledge, then you’ll be protected.
Even in the case that a high level magician sends the most powerful entity to destroy you (which will most likely not happen, higher level magicians are rarely interested in dealing with lesser powers), you will have some means of escaping it. Even if it means turning to others for help.

[quote=“Mode_439, post:8, topic:1428”]“I don’t honestly worry about being cursed or hexed or whatever”

  • -TWF-

Well, with the “hat” your avatar is wearing…you are BEGGING for it!!![/quote]

Let them the wrath of the Mummy will be swift (not really, they move slow but you get the idea.)

Oh and Fuck You! My avatar is awesome!

[quote=“waltyrs, post:6, topic:1428”][quote=“YogaApprentice, post:2, topic:1428”]Do daily a ritual of protection and stablish a link with protective deity praying to him/her everyday. I pray to him anytime i jump into the car (name of god, protect me please. x3 times). I also do in hostile environments

I also tried a Pantacle of Mars, consecrated with a little prayer wich sends backs attacks thrown at me, results, great[/quote]

With the Pentacle of Mars, do you just open the pentacle ( a la E.A. Style) and just go from there? Or do you do anything else in addition to just consecration of the Pentacle?[/quote]

I just consecrate it, using a simple prayer + visualization asking/visualizing it getting activated, put it on my wallet and forget about the subject. It’s the sixth one of Macgregor Mathers Pantacles of Solomon

Indeed!

[quote=“DK The Mage, post:9, topic:1428”]First, more often than not, when one thinks they are being cursed, they are most likely causing it themselves. It’s not often that you, in particular, are the target of a magician of such scale that it will actually impact you. And when it does come, you learn how to deal with it.
as WrithingParasite points out, obstacles and suffering are natural growing pains in any field of study one wishes to advance. Whether it is magick, mathematics, physics, basket weaving, or Mormonism :stuck_out_tongue: However, that does not necessarily mean that it will be due to any sort of baneful magick. It will most likely be due to the natural consequences of your advancements.
Third, it’s as simple as this, if you think you’re unprotected, then you’re unprotected. If you think you’re protected, and consciously perform protection to the best of your knowledge, then you’ll be protected.
Even in the case that a high level magician sends the most powerful entity to destroy you (which will most likely not happen, higher level magicians are rarely interested in dealing with lesser powers), you will have some means of escaping it. Even if it means turning to others for help.[/quote]

He’s back, ladies and gentlemen!!!

I’m almost happy to say that I’m not a High Level Magician yet. My level is way too much fun.:-p
But then again, I’m unique. :wink:

I agree that master sorcerers wont have interest on these stuff most of the time, but they can be true dangerous.

[quote=“Bran, post:12, topic:1428”][quote=“DK The Mage, post:9, topic:1428”]First, more often than not, when one thinks they are being cursed, they are most likely causing it themselves. It’s not often that you, in particular, are the target of a magician of such scale that it will actually impact you. And when it does come, you learn how to deal with it.
as WrithingParasite points out, obstacles and suffering are natural growing pains in any field of study one wishes to advance. Whether it is magick, mathematics, physics, basket weaving, or Mormonism :stuck_out_tongue: However, that does not necessarily mean that it will be due to any sort of baneful magick. It will most likely be due to the natural consequences of your advancements.
Third, it’s as simple as this, if you think you’re unprotected, then you’re unprotected. If you think you’re protected, and consciously perform protection to the best of your knowledge, then you’ll be protected.
Even in the case that a high level magician sends the most powerful entity to destroy you (which will most likely not happen, higher level magicians are rarely interested in dealing with lesser powers), you will have some means of escaping it. Even if it means turning to others for help.[/quote]

He’s back, ladies and gentlemen!!!

I’m almost happy to say that I’m not a High Level Magician yet. My level is way too much fun.:-p
But then again, I’m unique. ;-)[/quote]

How do you explain the successes of Baneful Magic then? Because there are lots of success stories. Not all of them will be true, but lots of others are true! I can tell you a couple of stories myself.
Or are you only talking about magicians being attacked?

Bran: It’s pretty uncommon to get attacked by a magician, it’s even more uncommon to be a magician attacked by another magician. And if you are a magician and are attacked, you’re more able to defend yourself than an uninitiated. I think that is the explanation I would take from it.

It’s like taking martial arts - most people who attack you will not be trained to fight, so not only are you already unlikely to get attacked, you are more likely to have a chance at defending yourself.

[quote=“Bran, post:14, topic:1428”][quote=“Bran, post:12, topic:1428”][quote=“DK The Mage, post:9, topic:1428”]First, more often than not, when one thinks they are being cursed, they are most likely causing it themselves. It’s not often that you, in particular, are the target of a magician of such scale that it will actually impact you. And when it does come, you learn how to deal with it.
as WrithingParasite points out, obstacles and suffering are natural growing pains in any field of study one wishes to advance. Whether it is magick, mathematics, physics, basket weaving, or Mormonism :stuck_out_tongue: However, that does not necessarily mean that it will be due to any sort of baneful magick. It will most likely be due to the natural consequences of your advancements.
Third, it’s as simple as this, if you think you’re unprotected, then you’re unprotected. If you think you’re protected, and consciously perform protection to the best of your knowledge, then you’ll be protected.
Even in the case that a high level magician sends the most powerful entity to destroy you (which will most likely not happen, higher level magicians are rarely interested in dealing with lesser powers), you will have some means of escaping it. Even if it means turning to others for help.[/quote]

He’s back, ladies and gentlemen!!!

I’m almost happy to say that I’m not a High Level Magician yet. My level is way too much fun.:-p
But then again, I’m unique. ;-)[/quote]

How do you explain the successes of Baneful Magic then? Because there are lots of success stories. Not all of them will be true, but lots of others are true! I can tell you a couple of stories myself.
Or are you only talking about magicians being attacked?[/quote]

Yeah, I’m definitely not saying black magic doesn’t work. And if you’re intent enough of truly damaging someone … there’s very little recourse they could do … unless they are a practicing magician themselves and know a few tricks, or know someone who can help them get out of the funk. That’s all I’m saying :slight_smile: Sorry if I didn’t make that all too clear.

My bad. I midunderstood it. thanks for clarifying

I wouldn’t bet my house on that statement[/quote]

Oh? I’m speaking in probabilities here. In all the people in the world, very few are magicians. In the pool of attackers, most of them are not magicians. In the pool of targets/victims, most of them are not magicians. So, a rare pick of attacker mixed with a rare pick of target, is most uncommon. While being a magician does perhaps make you a bigger target for a rival, it is still uncommon.

I suppose it depends on your definition of a magician? I know thats arguing semantics, but Ive seen all types…dabblers, people who are just getting started doing simple spells, fueled with enough anger to completely wreak havoc in someone’s life.
On the flip side Ive seen people I would call magicians, who have studied more than 30 years and are indeed powerful, lose themselves in a momentary fit of fury and legitimately curse someone just for cutting them off in traffic.
Being a magician doesn’t necessarily mean you are no longer susceptible to being human occasionally, or that you suddenly live by a strict moral code. And with a world of billions of people, im willing to bet that there are more magicians out there with a chip on their shoulder than I would really care to know about. The fact that a person like Uncle Chuckie can exist in this world is reason enough to at least be vigilant at all times.
Though, I do agree with redcircle, in the big scheme of things, if youre having problems, it would be wise to look into other areas that may be causing them first.

I see both sides of the argument, if you happen to know/socialize/practice with other magicians the chances are made higher. If your a solo practitioner that keeps his practice low key the odds are about the same as those that don’t practice.