Is it worth to buy mastering evocation for a person that start from zero?

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It is worth it once you have a basic understanding of general occult knowledge… For example, meditation is very important…key points of the many belief systems, etc…these will all effect the process of evocation on an individual basis in my opinion…if you have no knowledge it is kind of like trying to carry a bucket of sand that has no bottom…there is a bunch of information to begin with here if you read through the site…practice basic things and work your way up to that level…

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it’s most definitely worth it. get the evocation course,
but i suggest you go thru all the emails and the podcasts as well.

http://www.becomealivinggod.com/newsletter/
http://www.becomealivinggod.com/podcast/

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I second that. Get the course because it does help you to do evocations. Ive done 3 so far. Although I didnt have the experience that alot of people talk about. I didnt see anything but it was like i was linked to the inteligence that iwas evokeing. And we were having a conversation telepathicly. I knew it was real because as soon as i did the ceremony my mind was flooded with information on what I needed. The more u do it the more you want to do it.

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ABSOLUTLY
You can learn everything with it, and avoid years of research and mind twisting in looking in several grimoires about how to evoke, how to make the spirit appears

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It’s the best thing out there as far as starting from zero goes. You won’t be able to follow it all the way through to the more elaborate concepts and practices, but that’s not the point. 100% recommended.

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you’re better off getting the course, it’ll save you a LOT of time.

if i did have to recommend anything outside of mastering evocation, here you go:

: to find your own magickal paradigm (http://bit.ly/1psFR40). this is the basic belief behind any magick you do and it’s important to know what your core beliefs are - they define what is possible for you.

: the transformation of consciousness is the act of going into magickal trance. you focus on a sigil and then use inductions and deepeners to put yourself into state. some people find this hard and in order to make life easier on yourself you may want to learn self-hypnosis. i personally have been working with this book (http://amzn.to/1tv53V8) this week to get myself past my own sticking points and it is working for me, i’m almost there i my own toc work, which has been holding me back for MONTHS! it can save you a lot of time to do trancework before you conjure.

: if you want to learn how to generate your own sigils from scratch. frater u.d’s ebook practical sigil magick (http://bit.ly/1nBiLZj) OR israel regardie’s book how to make and use talismans (http://bit.ly/1rqm2MH) will show you how it’s done. if you’re too lazy to read, you can also use an automatic sigil creator here (http://17hex.net/sigil/), here (http://www.hogglewick.co.uk/Community/Tools/Sigil/Sigil.aspx), here (http://sigilmaker.com/), or here (http://sigil-generator.cultodelasranasmuertas.com/). all you do is load in your spirit name and they will generate your sigils for you. the chaos magick sigil technique requires you to take a name or request, cancel out all repeating letters, and then take out the vowels. the consonants you have left over are then compacted into a logo. all of the above links teach you how to do exactly that.

: finally, if you absolutely have no choice but to read a book of magickal exercises, i strongly suggest getting the basics of metaphysical empowerment by brother moloch (http://bit.ly/1kekzUq). to be quite blunt about it, this book and the mastering evocation course dvd are all you need to get going, and everything else is detail.

there you go. now get the course and happy conjuring!

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Honestly I’m glad I started with the Divination Course, the Ebook, and a few of his other books like doing the exercises in Evoking Eternity.

Even now I’m sort of ‘taking a step back’ from the Evocation course, because it is rather advanced, and like putting a fucking flame-thrower into the hands of a novice.

I do have background in Meditation and Kaballa work, but with E.A.'s stuff you have to do it in babysteps, and it’s HARD not to want to do it all at once, because it’s ALL so flippin good!

If I had to start over I’d just do the exercises from the O.A.A. material & the divination class for a year, then move on.

Anyhow, it’s hard not to do it all at once, but man I learned when wielding fire, it’s best to go slow.

If you have ‘zero’ magical background I recommend maybe an intro to hermetics like Donald Kraig’s Modern Magick or Franz Bardon’s Intro to Hermetics at the least to supplement E.A.'s work.

Good luck!

I bought mastering evocation but when I paid I dind receve the course I though that the download was istantanely but After 10 hours still nothing I conctacted the support as well.

you should have received a unique code and a link to the site where you may stream or download the course and the companion workbook in pdf.

you should have received a unique code and a link to the site where you may stream or download the course and the companion workbook in pdf.[/quote]

I did not receve anything thatz the problem, I just paid and they did not come back to me with any link.

email the helpdesk and ask for your code. the anonymous request email is here:
https://becomealivinggod.zendesk.com/anonymous_requests/new

No need for training clarividence or divination.
When you know how to truly evoke and manifest a spirit using the right knowledge, you dont need that.
I am talking about no bullshit evocation, but the real deal.

[quote=“Divinator, post:13, topic:3377”]No need for training clarividence or divination.
When you know how to truly evoke and manifest a spirit using the right knowledge, you dont need that.
I am talking about no bullshit evocation, but the real deal.[/quote]

Will you elaborate?

i already elaborated on that when i said to find your own magickal paradigm, or look into isaac bonewits’ pagan classifications. the way you define your own magickal worldview forms the basic belief behind any magick you do. know what your core beliefs are - they define what is possible for you.

in some magickal paradigms psi development and divination are important. in some they mean next to nothing. but you won’t know what to keep or throw if you don’t know what your magickal beliefs are. you have to know YOUR foundations. trying to build on somebody else’s foundations is not going to do anything good for you and sometimes can bring you more trouble than anything, or at the very least can lead to a LOT of wasted time and energy with no result to show for it.

keep in mind that everybody thinks their kung fu is the greatest but YOU are going to make the most progress doing what works best for YOU not for somebody else. pick YOUR poison and don’t be so easily swayed by anyone else who has the easy answers.

[quote=“the fool, post:15, topic:3377”]i already elaborated on that when i said to find your own magickal paradigm, or look into isaac bonewits’ pagan classifications. the way you define your own magickal worldview forms the basic belief behind any magick you do. know what your core beliefs are - they define what is possible for you.

in some magickal paradigms psi development and divination are important. in some they mean next to nothing. but you won’t know what to keep or throw if you don’t know what your magickal beliefs are. you have to know YOUR foundations. trying to build on somebody else’s foundations is not going to do anything good for you and sometimes can bring you more trouble than anything, or at the very least can lead to a LOT of wasted time and energy with no result to show for it.

keep in mind that everybody thinks their kung fu is the greatest but YOU are going to make the most progress doing what works best for YOU not for somebody else. pick YOUR poison and don’t be so easily swayed by anyone else who has the easy answers.[/quote]

Agreed, it is the practitioner not the art.

the fool: In parts I agree with you. I agree that ones own core worldview or gut-beliefs and honest visions of existance and magic are of highest importance. Not to allow other peoples limitations to become your own limitations, and to practise and express yourself and your magic honestly (Bruce Lee was awesome ^^). I don’t believe that whether it’s necessary to develope clairvoyance or not, is merely a question of what your core beliefs are.

But my last post was for Divinator to elaborate on what he considers “the real deal” “no bullshit evocation” and what it is that he thinks is bullshit evocation.

[quote=“the fool, post:12, topic:3377”]email the helpdesk and ask for your code. the anonymous request email is here:
https://becomealivinggod.zendesk.com/anonymous_requests/new[/quote]

I conctacted them hope that they will answer soon

I have to say that if it wasnt for some of the evocations that I’ve done Id be in alot of trouble. I endorse E.a’s products 10,0000000000000000000000"0""0000000000000000000000000000000000percent.

I bouth the circle UC 4 days ago will I receve the tracking number or not? When I bought the book after 3 days they send me the tracking number but this time nothing.