Impossible to Get Goetics to Work

Been at it for years, followed all advices, and made tons of offerings… Discouraged. I’m now trying to enter transvocation. Anyone ever tried it?

Transvocation:
http://becomealivinggod.com/forum/mastering-evocation-omnipotence/transvocation/msg54429/#msg54429

Can your speak to spirits?

I pray to them, communicate with them, but do not hear them as I’d hear a fellow human being. I do make use of enns, sigils, visualization etc.

Demonic Enns:

And your wonder why you have so much trouble…
Learn to communicate effectively with spirits (yes, you MUST hear them clear as day). I recommend starting with your ancestors and suspending all other workings.

[quote=“Enlightener_Illuminator, post:1, topic:4727”]Been at it for years, followed all advices, and made tons of offerings… Discouraged. I’m now trying to enter transvocation. Anyone ever tried it?

Transvocation:
http://becomealivinggod.com/forum/mastering-evocation-omnipotence/transvocation/msg54429/#msg54429[/quote]

I read the description. I have not tried it. Some of the points he makes about deep mind states and everything being possible with the mind are entirely accurate in my experience.

In one perspective the inner senses are active and through this the operator can communicate with and perceive the entity as external to the operator. To a casual untrained observer (most of the time) there appears to be no other spirit/being present.

Euoi’s recommendation to work with the ancestors and to ‘drop everything else’ I think is an idea that is on the right track. Working to develop a faculty like inner hearing or clairaudience until you can rely on it consistently is so useful.

After working with different beings what worked for me was doing a daily practice that was of high intensity emotionally, with an intent to not only communicate to, but also receive communication from. And to continue this every day until you do get the communication. I didn’t happen to use my ancestors for this, but mantras and a focus on the visualized form a deity. Similar to Vajrayana practices of meditating upon a divine form.

I kept up the mantras and emotional devotion, etc. to a high level with the expectation of communication, every day. I even specifically requested it ‘to be spoken in my language’ so I could ‘hear’ it, when I started to get visions or insights in other ways.

I assume Euoi’s method would be similar with a focus on the ancestors and constant practice until success was achieved. (Correct me if I’m wrong.)

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