I don't understand why people like to link gods together

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"Members of this forum" people, though to be fair, most commonly it’s phrased as a question “is so-n-so this other entity” and most commonly the consensus is “nope”.
If you hang around or try the search you’ll see them, it’s a common ask.

It’s always from newbies who are armchair mages, getting way stuck in their heads who have not evoked them separately to feel the energy signature: all beings including humans have a unique energy signature that cannot be faked. It can be imitated and then it depends on your skill to tell. That’s what impostors are all about.

When you do that it’s as obvious as seeing two people in a room who is the same and who isn’t, though it’s harder to sense when you have an egregoric overlay or an incarnation and when you don’t: that can feel like a new being and it kinda is and kinda isn’t. Like, you in your car and you walking aren’t the same but yet it’s still you underneath. Likewise, you will also be able to feel when they are the same. When you can so that you can also feel when you have an impostor, that that’s a vital skill for people who evoke.

I think though, this is a different question than, “do these two guys share an archetype”. The OP isn’t about archetypes or aspects, it’s asking why people try to conflate named entities. LOTs of entities share related attributes, as do lots of people.

E.g., I’m Aquarian, so is Belial, that doesn’t mean I AM Belial, we just both agree on the values of freedom and independence.

Here is an example for Lilith, trying to conflate Lilith, a Jewish figure “female evil spirit, in medieval Hebrew folklore the first wife of Adam, from Hebrew Lilith, from Akkadian Lilitu, which is connected by folk etymology with Hebrew laylah "night.” - etymology online" with everybody from Isis to Freja to Chinese deities, who do not have matching aspects, it’s all based a mix of documentation and hearsay and… really just wishful thinking.

I have no idea why, I think it’s diminishing and reductionist not helpful. And again, doesn’t bear out in ritual, which is the material point for a practicing mage trying to get results.

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Ok, it’s going a bit South here and I’ve done some clean up… several off topic posts criticizing the posters or the style of communication in a post rather than answering the OPs question have been removed.

@mavi Please tone it down, you might not realise it but you are coming across as belligerent and argumentative for the sake of being argumentative, and without provocation since you appear to agree in principle if not in the use of language. Nobody is gaslighting or attacking you, people’s opinions are not there for you to believe and neither are yours. But you are becoming insulting and making accusations rather than debating in a civil manner, which is against the rules and is why I have removed your posts.

In the future, if anyone feels “disrespected” or attacked in a thread, please use the flag feature rather than escalating and derailing the thread.

For those who need a reminder, the OP is not at all ambiguous and no assumptions about what he means are required:

[/mod hat off]

To get back on topic, yes, this is a thing, and this is not the first time that someone has asked about why people do it either. It’s just a hard topic to search on.

It happens, the OP has noticed this, I linked an example, and that’s why he’s asking about it. He’s not a fan of the practice and that’s ok, he’s allowed his opinion.

My feeling is, based on just reading nearly every post on this forum for the last 4 ish years, if you notice WHO does this, it’s mainly the seekers: the new and the armchair scholars, and I think they’re just trying to analyse and understand the patterns before diving in. I call it “playing matchy matchy”.

In fact, I call it “matchy matchy” enough that you can use that as a search term to find more examples of this kind of question:
https://forum.becomealivinggod.com/search?q=matchy%20matchy

Another example: I said this in March 2022 in this topic:

I wouldn’t play matchy matchy and confuse things unless I was very familiar with both currents and the entities felt and told me they were the same being. Work with each current as is until you understand it on it’s own merits. Or don’t bother with the pantheon at all and just work with the entities you are naming.

They mostly seem to evolve away from it when they start practicing and getting experiential results, although some will grow into specific associations that work for them based on personal UPG and spirit communication. It’s not usually a blanket approach to all entities and all pantheons.

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Well if were talking historically and culturally the term is called Syncretism. So when one culture encountered another they would usually compare there gods to each other. So while those were initially separate they would become connected mainly because of the similarities in role and dominion. This allowed the deities to form links over time to others and sometimes even merge into new forms.

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