How do you use an Angel to bind a Demon?

[Mulberry]

@Sat666

but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, “We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]

I’m not sure this is even on topic, and I have to strongly disagree with the text your quoted. It is an inversion of the truth. As Werb said above and I agree:

@Werb421

No, you and the Angels do the work. .In fact, your Higher Self is an Angel.

It s in no way a “disbelief” to use magick, it is simply exercising your birthright abilities as a human, like any other tool use.

What you have quotes is a monstrous attempt to scare and shame people into never empowering themselves. learning how thier energy works or looking deeply into the mysteries through trial an error. You can’t learn when you are constantly looking over your shoulder in case you get called a heretic.

Mod note:
Please stop quoting the quaran out of contact all over this forum @Sat666 , it’s starting to look like you are stealth preaching, and preaching is against the rules here. Please stay on topic.

[anon82861206]

@Mulberry

I’m not sure this is even on topic, and I have to strongly disagree with the text your quoted. It is an inversion of the truth. As Werb said above and I agree:

I do believe it is a misunderstanding, I just assumed ´Angels are good ´, ´Demons are bad ´. Is something related to abrahamic religions, thats why i quoted it, because if we base who is good and who is bad on those texts, then magic itself is bad from those texte, in that sense the text of abrahamic religions contradict itself. In that topic, outside of the abrahamic religions view i do not view at all a reason why there will be team angel and team demon,

Also, the idea of Demons should by definition be bound, i do not see from where it comes besides from Solomon, and Solomon is good guy in the Quranic story, and i do not believe in Quran,

So for the Quran to be distorting the truth, Solomon being ´the good guy’ becomes questionable, because being against Quran, whatever the Quran promotes is Questionable,

My stance is very against Quran, the above i presented it as a counter argument rather as my view. Advocating that Angels can be bad, and Demons can be good ( my stance )is against the very story i quoted

I do however like verses in Quran, same way i like verses in bible, or The Bhagavad Gita or whatever,

However, the book as a whole Bhavagad Gita is 1 million times better than Quran.

Not only im encouraging magic, but im more side Demon than side Angels, which is completely against Quran in extreme way.

I hope you got my point.

1. The Quran praises solomon : i am against Solomon view
2. The Quran Says Angels are perfect i say they can be bad
3. The Quran says Demon are bad , i am defending them
4. The Quran is against magic, i am encouraging Magic with help of Demons which is more extreme
5. The only sin that is not forgiven in islam is deification of a God besides Allah, i do Deify myself and Demons and Praised many Sufi who claimed they are Gods and that got executed by muslims

@Mulberry

Please stop quoting the quaran out of contact all over this forum @anon82861206 , it’s starting to look like you are stealth preaching, and preaching is against the rules here. Please stay on topic.

i am against mentioning it too, i just saw other members do and thought its ok, i will stop mentioning it. Thanks for your guidance. Sorry for disturbing you.

[Mulberry]

Well, instead of quoting books by people you don’t know and never met, why not post your own actual experience? We can all read, not all of us reach out and practice.

[Mani]

@anon82861206

So for the Quran to be distorting the truth, Solomon being ´the good guy’ becomes questionable, because being against Quran, whatever the Quran promotes is Questionable

Solomon is not “the good guy”, he’s “the wise king” I thought all JCI interpretations said this? He had wisdom/chokma/Sophia but he was human like the rest of us. You could be as wise as possible and still not be “good” as good and evil are not binary concepts. What I see as good can differ from what someone else sees as good. I could tell someone its good I work two jobs and they’ll say that it’s bad because why should I have to work two jobs. Regardless, I’m going off topic.

We also don’t know if Solomon invented the Solomonic systems ans traditions. We just give it the name of Solomonic magick because he is the most famous example of using the system to get what he wanted. And the biggest thing from the solomonic system is self-reliance instead of blind faith that a higher power can give you what you want. Only you can do that. Do what thou wilt. A higher power can help but it relies on you alone.