@Iam Incide- that’s a great way of looking at it. I’m very much into the whole idea of the evolution of consciousness.
@Succupedia - Yeah, I hear you. I agree that it’s there’s no point assigning labels to things simply for the sake of it. The issue that I had was that everyone seems to throw around these terms (myself included), but it occurred to me that what I think of as ‘ascent’, might be drastically different to how someone else defines it, and this would inevitably lead to confusion and misunderstandings. This would then be a hindrance to actual practical progress.
For example, when EA talks about certain demons who can assist with ascent in Evoking Eternity, I want to understand what exactly that means, before deciding whether that aligns with my goals or not.
The main confusion for me was the whole issue of whether or not ascent is concerned with the ‘here and now’, or more about the attainment of a different state of existence in the afterlife. The definition of the LHP by Stephen Flowers that I quoted above was not quite clear on this distinction, and also people like MW Ford, when talking about the goals of Luciferianism, says things like ‘Luciferianism is about the ‘here and now’, but also about the spiritual’- not a direct quote btw, but something along those lines. It has never been quite clear to me what exactly is meant by these sort of statements.