How do I get into the state to separate the soul from the physical body?

Are there other techniques to leave the body?

When I try to project, I get vibrations but I try to push my energy body up. Should I make it go down into my mind? Deeper and deeper into my mind?

Atm im reading Robert Bruce The Treatise on Astral Projection. Its the best book ive read on it so far and im a huge book nerd, its explained things to me that i didnt previously know and honestly i thought i pretty much knew all of it when it came to projection. Honestly, read it. I think having a complete understanding of whats happening helps you to achieve it and theres also techniques in there.

And as mentioned before, its not your soul going out into the astral its actually your astral body which is the next one up from the physical.

Try it and see, experiment and find out if it works for you.

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From another thread:

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Myself it took a while but through the training in the soul travel course , I was able to separate at the vibration state after pratice. I haven’t mastered it yet.
Its hit and miss still taking notes , but if I do get into vibrations , it’s within 10 mins. But I’ve trained in soul travel course for this diligently. Once I get the vibrations, I’ll separate.
Other methods of seperation, e.a talks about just separating your body , the more advanced way rocking right and exiting left , but requires much development.

On a random note , the phase, someone mentioned raduga a video about it in another thread, I youtube it both me and a friend had random sleep projections after listening to it all evening and while falling sleep listening to it. :smiley:

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I’ve felt the vibrations before, but I haven’t been able to control when they come on, and I’ve never separated. For me, step one is getting vibrations to start, but I don’t have reliable techniques.

When I’ve tried to astral project, I notice while lying down with eyes closed (trying to relax, etc), that my body feels (almost every time) like it’s waving slightly from side to side. Like micro movement’s. Ive never gotten to vibrations. Had my heart race once, and I always feel strained even though I’m supposed to be relaxed…

So if your soul is not leaving your body…then is your awareness fully shifted to your energy body? Like you feel like your in a different body/perceive from this body? Or does it feel like your in your physical body?

Wait if it shouldn’t take that long (a week) to learn to astral project…why does everyone say it can take “years to master”… @anon48079295

Because they’re told it takes years and it becomes an game of telephone where they’re just repeating it. They think too hard on it and try to make it seem like they should instantly have this profound experience when they won’t.

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So over thinking, and them creating their own reality/delaying one through belief that it takes forever/ is difficult then.

Pretty much, because I learned to etheric project in a week or 2 and from there continued to practice and improve my senses while there, of course I started with physical projection onto the physical plane first. I skipped astral/mental which is usually the 2nd to go to.

physical projection the way I learned is you project onto the physical, explore your room, see your physical body, then walk around your neighborhood if you want to so it helps you work on your stamina for your projection to be capable of going further distances, then you go either astral or etheric.

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Google be a good recourse on how to do an Physical projection? I only know the steps to astral project and don’t know how to do a Physical projection.

Can you communicate with spirits through this type? Like you can astrally?

All the steps are the same, your focus is just different, same steps different desired plane. astral/mental, physical energetic layer, and etheric/spiritual, and whatever other plane you come to discover in your practices.

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Get a copy of Robert Bruce’s Astral Dynamics book. He’s one of the best authorities on the topic of OBEs/astral projection. His methods are easy but effective.

How did you learn in a couple weeks? Are you using traditional methods like those of Michael Raduga, Robert Monroe, or Robert Peterson; or are you using EA’s methods of getting out of body?

neither of them

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Oh, how did you learn then? I’m trying to figure out how to AP.

I heard about some method where you try and touch objects/things but not with your physical hands. So I’m looking into that.

Hands on learning.

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Hands on learning?

Referring to the method or how you learned?