That could be a bit of both? I love Belial but he’s definitely an asshole. 
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Maybe he acts like an asshole because you call him that and view him that way.
Don’t you think you’re also at fault here for getting into a relationship with a spirit you obviously didn’t know nearly enough about?
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To be fair to the OP, Belial is the tough love teacher, he will watch you flounder so you can learn the lesson, he’s not like say, Opfaal who will deliver, Belial will watch you be hoist by your own petard, and only step in where the damage would be such that you could not learn from it.
It’s definitely a case of caveat emptor (buyer beware) when you do this kind of magick, but that’s why BALG exists to share our experiences so people can compare notes and make decisions with more data.
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You’re right @Mulberry which is why I included this. Belial is known for hard lessons. I cannot imagine leading a life that is incredibly hard and expecting Belial to make all my problems vanish without putting me through some trials first.
I think that’s a statement that could use a quote. 
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I see. I should’ve never made this pact is the conclusion I’m getting. Sounds like I made this pact for the wrong reasons. I don’t know.
I have so much internalized homophobia. It makes making friends and having a relationship very difficult for me. Having a relationship with my parents. The pot smoking over the last near decade has really made my life difficult alongside with it. I make an effort not to act on these feelings but recently did and feel much shame and guilt. I have come to the conclusion that I’m going to lead a very lonely and solitude life. No man or…woman for me. Leaves me bitter and angry. Not being able to have a wife or raise a family. Even worse, because I’m a metalhead and this subculture is for better or for worse, very macho and heteronormative. With the exception of Rob Halford. I feel so closeted and isolated.
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I’ve read that too on here browsing the forums in the past. I definitely knew this desire wouldn’t be done without something in return. I just don’t know. I’m very new to this field. I haven’t been able to properly communicate with him yet. I’ve been unsuccessful in my past rituals. I have no desire for political goals.
Thank you for your response. I now realize this pact might’ve been a mistake. I’m on the fence now whether I want to continue this pact or not. So far it’s made my life absolute hell. If this is his ways of teaching, he is a mean bastard. I realize there’s a good analogy that describes my situation. Jumping into the deep end of a pool or lake without going through the shallow parts. I will find some meditation, and I need to learn more about banishing and grounding.
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Thank you. How do I ground myself? I try not to abuse drugs instead use them but it blurs the line sometimes. I never asked to have an addictive personality. Life’s not fair.
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I will adopt those practices. It’s so easy to stay in the negative. Especially when my life has gotten even more hard. Thank you.
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Yes. I recently got into the occult back sometime late last year. I made all those mistakes. I didn’t think a pact with Belial would be this hard. I’m on the fence whether I want to continue it or not. I would ask him to lay off or ask for kinder guidance if I ever succeed in making communication with him. So far I haven’t. Indeed they push.
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I’m hoping the back pain is just that. Muscle tension or nerve pain.
I’ve been engaging in lust for many years now. Now I’m trying to back off on that lust.
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Yes, I would agree with that. And I am too. Taking a hard look at myself.
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Possibly. Yes, I am at fault for getting into a relationship with a spirit I obviously I didn’t know nearly enough about. Doing it on the fly and haphazardly.
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Very tough indeed. Buyer beware huh. Should’ve been more aware of that prior to making this pact. I made this pact because if I didn’t it’s considered chaos magic and mess up your life. Well, I made the pact and completely gone down the toilet. I just received news that my state job is being terminated and my car considered totaled. I lost $4,000 to scammers and they continue to harass me and I’m really close to going to the police at this point.
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I think you do want to go to the police, both to report the robbery and the harassment. You won’t be the only one they are hurting and your info could help other targets.
There’s two different ideas of chaos magick in here though. One is magick that causes chaos, which can happen in any current. The other is “Chaos Magick” as a current on it’s own, Austin Osman Spare style, which doesn’t mean it’s chaotic, it means it doesn’t follow the set rules of ceremonial magick. It’s like the western occult’s answer to witchcraft without calling itself witchcraft.
Sound like this would be helpful. If nothing else to make sure your pact is with Belial and you didn’t get an impostor feeding off your misery.
I would try a big old banishing and cleansing, with a salt bath or cleansing shower to get rid of any parasites (they tend to get attracted in this sort of situation, between the drugs, sex, anger and worry, it’s perfect parasite nom noms, the scammers are a human example of this, but there are astral ones as well).
Then, when clear, try contacting Belial, any way you like, it could be tarot, pendulum, evocation, invocation and asking why things have gone downhill when you asked for him to fix your life?
What was your part of the pact and are you doing it?
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If you need help contacting Belial, these things might help. The tarot cards (majors and court) were directly channeled by me from Belial.
https://belialtarot.com/
And this thread here is how I originally got in contact with him.
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Have you considered asking to cancel your pact? You can use a simple pendulum as a communication tool as long as you’re able to use it. Some people even use coins (fancy, or standard).
That is the general consensus, is that King Belial is a hard master/teacher. He has put many people through many challenging times.
There are many ways to do this. Have you googled “grounding”? Sitting outside is a great way, but you can also do grounding meditations (YouTube has some, but chose with purpose). Getting in touch with your physical body. Grounding is often associated with the root chakra, it seems you may also be experiencing issues here due to you identity issue and/or sexual ones.
I’m not sure he has too much of a kinder “setting.” I think you’ll be best off calling him, informing him you aren’t experienced enough to be in a/this pact at the moment, and respectfully breaking it off. From there, you might want to start work with entities that have a gentler touch.
I would suggest Loki as he’s notorious for sexual extravagance, healing queer people, and so much more obviously. I’d also suggest Sitri for getting in touch with, accepting, or changing your sexual preferences; a word of caution that Sitri is not always the gentlest and might intimidate but he’s no where near Belial in having you grow only from suffering. I might also suggest Buer known for healing. There are many others, but I put these forth as I’ve worked closely with them all.
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Unfortunately, because of the nature of this scam (not a robbery) I’ve been very hesitant about going to the police. I was involved in an illegal, fraudulent scam trying to get illegal substances. The individuals I was corresponding with kept telling me lies about getting these products. He kept telling me to pay all this money through cash app transactions and gift cards and that I would get my package. Every time I paid the money he come up with some excuse and pay more money for this “package.” I now realize they scumbags never had my products to begin with and swindled me out of $4,000. Heart breaking. Practically extortion. I wanted these products because it helps me with my depression, physical pain, and other physical and mental ailments. Of course they’re illegal. I wanted this stuff so bad I believed this scumbag’s lies. Going to the cops at this point would be very risky and if I did, it would have to be anonymous. But, I feel like I don’t have a choice. They keep harassing me with phone calls asking for more money. I need to find out who this individual is and where they live before I go to the cops.
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Andromalius or the equivalent Shem angel.
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Have you considered magickal protection or attack?
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