Experiences with ADHD and Magic

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Hi everyone, I’m new here. Since I was a child, I’ve always felt deeply drawn to music, magick, and darkness. I used to think about studying magick seriously, but I was afraid that the desire for power could corrupt me and make me do things I’d regret.

Now that I’m older, I feel more in control of myself. My question is this: I’ve noticed that ADHD seems to share some characteristics with what people describe as spiritual parasitism, possession, or energetic interference.

My father was very charming and had many relationships with women, and I sometimes wonder if someone envious might have tried to curse our family. My aunts used to say they could feel strong energy from me even when I was little—and I remember that babies would often cry when I looked at them.

As I’ve learned more about ADHD and met other people who have it, I’ve noticed a pattern: many experienced extreme stress as infants or young children. Some researchers say that early trauma can affect dopamine regulation in the brain. But I wonder if this “inheritance” might be not only genetic, but also behavioral—if parents unconsciously recreate stressful environments, passing the pattern down through generations.

This would fit the idea of a generational curse in a symbolic or energetic sense.

So my question is: could ADHD be a kind of generational curse, parasitic influence, or malicious working—or is it just coincidence? And what entities, protections, or spiritual practices would you recommend to work with this kind of energy?

Thanks a lot, everyone :slight_smile:

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I think ADHD may be a scam to normalize the unnatural and stifling environments given youngsters in school. Especially boys, who need to move. It’s torture to be made to sit still all day and unnatural, and they get called ADHD and ‘acting up’ if they want to run around and get stimulation as normal boys should.

Also I think there’s nothing wrong with us for being easily bored, that’s a sign of intelligence.

Dopamine regulation is definitely part of it, and a huge problem, but is trainable and responds to environment. It’s not genetic and it’s not an illness, there’s nothing wrong. Get rid of tiktoc and dopamine sinks and disruptors, sleep on time and well, eat clean and high nutrition and keep a healthy weight, and I think a lot of people would be able to focus on boring shit a lot more easily, because being well makes you more resilient.

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ADHD is not a scam, but is trendy at times and the term gets abused in several ways.

ADHD is an alternative way in which a brain develops and how hormone receptors work. It is very much a physical thing. It can seem a generational curse, but it’s in fact genetically determined. So passed on from parent to child. Now labeled a disorder, but presumably a genetic preference and a set of characteristics that played a vital role in a tribe.

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Hmm I have ADHD here

I also have CPTSD

But your post reminds me of an ex I had dated from age 19-21 who was also ADHD and seemed to possess a spiritual parasite. It’s rather interesting and a story not everyone can handle as there are explicit stories of sexual exploitation.

But it is also, via neurobiology and neuroscience, found to have structural differences. Of course, a spiritual and metaphysically inclined person is bound to ask “Well what causes the initial divergence to those differences?”.

Now if this topic were about the complex PTSD.. I could posit an entirely different hypothesis because I know the abuse that was the foundation catalyst for that was forged in a large spiritual/sexual childhood elemental from infancy - age 7-9ish.

I have grappled with the karmic; morality and causal reasons for this at length and concluded the basis for that type of organised child abuse must be spiritual in nature to some degree.

Although complex PTSD isn’t adhd; they are two distinct conditions. When they are comorbid in a person, it becomes a chicken-and-egg debate. Would I of developed ADHD without the childhood trauma or was it born within me? Is it environmental?

That’s again, a baseline debate within psychology.

I have as a psychology student with a nephew who may be on the ASD (autism) spectrum done a lot of research into autism recently. I’ve found that a lot of adults with autism actually correlate with trauma history.

They are only just finding out this. They are starting to also realise that ADHD, being a neurodevelopmental disorder, is a type of “perception and sensing; processing” the world differently (a neurotype if you will) and not so much a mental illness.

People with ADHD, may just be filtering the processes of reality in a novel way. They react faster, are more creative, more attuned to social and emotional cues, and more spontaneous.

They are processing things on a different level than neurotypicals.

What helped me was going to support groups for ADHD and connecting with ways to manage the ADHD and meet others who have the condition, which helps normalise it instead of being around a world of normal neurotypical people who think differently.

I also find autistic people are similar(ish) and I relate to their way of being around a lot although we aren’t the same, it’s a similar bandwidth if you will.

So I think you will find like all things in life perception and perspective framing and how you filter in your reality and make sense of it will be how your experience is lived.

If you see your ADHD as a spiritual curse or a negative attribute then you will only filter an experience back that is reminiscent of that.

By understanding your authentic lived experience as it is, working through how the negative things may have been difficult or traumatic in whatever way you need to (how to learn skills to cope, discharging the excess psychic and somatic energy into a physical thing like exercise martial arts, yoga or something like that, then you can channel it somatically).

Attention goes where energy flows. People with adhd tend to have.

A lot of pent-up nervous energy, which actually can be a BLESSING when we can build it up in the right way and charge it to a point ritualistically for magickal working, ceremony and ritual. Trust me. It just takes time, energy and the will and want to get to a point.

Cliche, but mindfulness. Basic normal life things like taking care of your health, keeping a routine, exercise, nutrition, sleep and small things to keep you stuck to your goals. Building up foundational rituals over time has gone a long way. Meow a dream diary and magical journal. I don’t know if you are in the wave of late 90s kids who were part of the social meme trend of indigo star kids or whatever they called the adhd people back in my childhood, but that conspiracy alleged we were more spiritual and psychic and that was why it was a diagnosis.

It’s probably somewhere if you try to Google it now.

However, it’s a perspective. Choose the negative belief or cognitive filter and your mind will manifest a reality that aligns with that way. But focus on a more constructive method and you might experience something else.

Also ask, what is the origin of the belief? Is there anything external to the shame from others that may be contributing to this? You will be shaken by how much pressure ADHD folks face and internalise due to normal society’s 9-5 performance demands and our perpetual masking has forced us to tolerate a world we are not inherently built to exist within.

So introspection and self-analysis to work out what exists behind the wall of this belief of spiritual concept of yours

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A brilliant post, thanks for this!

An ADHD support group is a great idea! Haven’t done those myself, but it’s a great way to get familiar with the typical things ADHDers deal with. A hyperfocus on the research, next to a short period of ADHD specific cognitive behavioral therapy after I got my diagnosis really helped me to understand my brain and the similar things others deal with and possible ideas on how to deal with them (instead of whiteknuckling myself into the neurotypical standards). And of course by research I mean lectures and TED talks by scientists on YouTube and channels like “How To ADHD”

Trying to do the neurotypical things the neurotypical way (like trying to fit yourself in the 9 to 5 societal mindset) is where a lot of stress and the feelings of failure come from by the undiagnosed. That can probably also add to the sense of being cursed.

[Quote]I also find autistic people are similar(ish) and I relate to their way of being around a lot although we aren’t the same, it’s a similar bandwidth if you will.[/quote]

If not only being neuro-atypical in a society that demands your android OS to function in an Apple environment. I actually had a very interesting conversation with a collegue today. She is very ADHD and also on the autism spectrum. Her husband is very typically autistic. Can solve complex mathemetical problems in his head, but she had to teach him how to boil water. She posed the theory that ADHD peeps often tend to seek out ASD peeps and vice versa. It kinda makes sense to me. Her husband is very good in keeping things consistent, organized and planned in advance. She can be a calming factor by being a typical ADHDer when things suddenly change drastically from the ordinary and expected.

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I am diagnosed with ADHD myself. At least according to the criteria. It doesn’t stop me from practicing spirituality.

In general try to walk a lot, take up a sport, streamline the boring parts of your life and incorporate the chaos in your rituals. Be a little wary about too addictive things. They can bite you.

Meditation can be covered by taking long walks instead. Fasting happens naturally if you are hyper focussed anyway. And the chaos you can also use to fire rituals. If you feel doing one, just do it.

I see ADHD as an alternative brain development. It is quite useful in high paced environments. Also it often develops into cluster-b traits, which are warlike adaptions and useful for darker forms of spirituality and less nice jobs in society. Somebody needs to do the dirty laundry.

ADHD itself is I guess partially genetic and environmental. Usually this means a couple of silent genes are activated due to stressors. This signals your environment is not safe or needs a different set of code, which is better for your survival. Problem is human society evolves faster than nature. This creates more pressure on the individual and leads to potential cluster-b traits or pd’s.

The problem is often seen as an imbalance between dopamine and adrenaline, but it goes a bit deeper than that, since receptors have subtypes and these are not equally distributed in the brain. So just give it ritalin is often not the best choice. It works for a while though, but eventually your brain reaches homeostasis again (aka balance) and you have to heighten your dose. Sometimes receptor a develops tolerance in a different pace than receptor b and thus often the side-effects grow stronger.

If we take the romanticism away or the funny label, it is a pretty shitty begin hand to been dealt with at first. Difficult genes for this society, difficult starters environment and potentially difficulties in society, you cannot bridge when you are young.

If you ‘suffer’ from this, don’t despair too much, you grow up in a different way and these poisons become gifts. it just took you more time. To keep the metaphor, it is a good hand in the end game.

Pharmacological side, and well it is Hekate:

Hekate definitely helps, eh, she is quite knowledgeable on toxins, but also pharmacological properties of plants, which is the flip side of toxicology. She pointed me how I can reach meditative states easier, when the impulses are higher, by using various herbs. One is nigella sativa, which modulates dopamine. Enough magnesium against restless legs also helped a lot. You may have a look into it.

She can do a lot more, force you to do things, but you need to find that out for yourself.

Sexuality, uncertainty, potential depression and more pleasure in general in life:

Asmodeus and his wife the younger Lilith are great, he understands somehow the nature of impulsivity very well, helps with yoga and meditation, focus in sexuality and he can also harness you against pain by turning it into pleasure. I guess you also walk into multiple problems the same day, sometimes fall. He can also help in transmuting emotions. E.g. sorrow in lust. And not only lust in sexuality but lust in life.

He can also find a suitable partner if needed.

Emotion dysregulation:

Leviathan is great for emotional disregulation if you suffer from it. She seems to take up the edge. Also nice if you have problems releasing emotions, she let them flow. A bit painful.

Forcing yourself to an outcome:

Belial and his tower moments seem to focus me personally beyond recognition. But some think he is too rough, he likes anarchists and rebels. Can be fun too btw.

Hypersexuality, love and empathy:

I work with my matrons (Astarte, Hekate and Lilith) on this.

Lilith teaches self-love in a very different way than therapy seems to give. It is more about accepting who you are and seeing the joy in it. Not what your parents did wrong or analyzing bad schema’s in your head. It is not that important, it is important because it clashes with society.

However rough, she knows there is a place for you. Also the kind of love she gives is exquisite. She can help you weaponize sexuality.

Astarte, also teaches sexuality, she also shows you how love is embedded in our universe and connecting things. And how too much love in all parties can cause war. She can make you love people (also on friendship level), but also make you loved. She can help you weaponize love.

Hekate, a different type of love. Dark romanticism, a dark and deeper form of empathy, but also destructive harshness. Saying goodbye to parts of you.

It can save a relationship if things are a bit harder and you become bored. And you can lose some energy if it is too much.

Financial issues:

Clauneck might help with financial issues and streamlining it.
Magot can give emergency funds.

Lost things:
Vassago for finding things you lost.

Keeping your mouth shut or not, a bit of scheming and violence:

Andras can help you keeping your mouth shut and deal with dumb anger issues or deal.
Samael is a good one, he can learn you Machiavellism.
Lucifer if it is better to tell the truth if you follow some therapy.
And I like Astarte’s war games, tactical thinking and strategic thinking

Juridical problems:

Belial - He can keep you out of trouble for a long time. Lol.
Raum - if there needs to be some spring cleaning in your environment.

I haven’t found a magical cure for addictive impulses. You need to ride those out.

So eh, it is what you make out of it. There are many others. This is what I do, but you can take different routes depending on your needs.

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Thanks for the response, my friend. That info fits me like a glove

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Hi zevenmijlslaars_14

I’m newbie spiritual student and I’m in the process of finding my path to spirituality in an environment that is absolutely negative for me (very Christian family, 0 private space and even worse, me being a hopeless procrastinator :disappointed_face:).

I wanted to know if you could share your method for approaching the Goddess Astarte and how you communicate with her?