[quote=“Cogitation, post:5, topic:7644”]“Satan is a middle man, not important outside of one particularly persistent philosophy.”
“I personally dont work with Satan at all.”
- paraphrased EA Koetting at magickALL gathering lecture.
“For nearly $1000 I will sell your soul to Satan (;”
Some days the guy really does dissapoint.[/quote]
Okay here’s my opinion - I didn’t use to believe in “Satan,” or, selling your soul. Nor did I care for cludging spirits together and saying they’re masks of each other, tra-la-la (still don’t actually like this).
BUT - then along came the spirit of my relative (I call him uncle for convenience) now known to some of you as Varnaxis. Full story here.
Uncle V. didn’t hire a modern magician to summon up Ye Devil, in fact he was a scared kid and I believe his first summoning of the being he calls The Dark Master was in a school toilet - a scene I’ve seen enough times to believe it’s real, and not symbolic.
He was at that point, for reasons I won’t go into, crying out to sell his soul, to hand over his life, do anything at all to get help from a being he believed was more able to be active on this earth than the hollow promises of the churchmen.
And, he got it - and lived a long, successful, happy and wealthy life, loved by friends and family, as a result.
He did have several former lives dealing with spirits, as various types of priest (back when that meant evocator of the god, channeller of the will of spiritual beings, not just some nonce in a fancy dress) and this was why he was able to do, in a bathroom stall, that which millions of magicians over the ages have failed to do.
Here’s the groovy bit - the being he summoned, he calls the Dark Master, as I said, but he also calls himself a satanist - small “s” - as in, someone who works with the epitome of satanic dark energies.
The being I met when he took me to meet this Dark Master, Prince of all Darkness, was also the Egyptian god Set.
And the sigil he gave me? It’s the sigil of Lucifer - this one:
I had already met Lucifer and been given a familiar by him, and the spirits are the same, yet different - I’m not going to get into that here.
While this offends my tidy (tiny? :P) mind in some ways, that a “fallen angel” (as the myth goes) is also an Egytpain god, furthermore one who was crucial as a source of power to the Pharoahs of the day, and who aided the Netjer throughout various underworld shenanigans to make sure the sun rose the next day, I promise you this stuff is AS real as anything I’ve experienced, and I also know that several people here and elsewhere have worked successfully with Varnaxis, now basically a demonic Lord in his own right.
So, now, as compared to this time last year, I believe that:
Satan is a real force, and people can sell their souls (or more accurately, turn over their lives as a devoted adherent) to him, and in exchange receive material and emotional success and status - it helps to have past-life stuff, maybe, but there’s never a better day to start (if this is what you’re into) than today;
that “the” Satan/Dark Master being Varnaixs (as a living kiddie) summoned, is also Lucifer, in another aspect - that’s a whole baggage to unpack in itself;
and they’re also the Egyptian deity, Set.
I didn’t believe this 12, 14 months ago, I’d have thought it was lame. I would have rolled my eyes at posts about this, and moved on thinking they were… misled.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that I therefore assume that E.A. is working with the same tripartaie entity, I have literally no idea and haven’t even watched the promo video yet, I’m talking about the overall principle, that someone can change their views and retain integrity, and be coming from a place of real experience (instead of dogma) that has caused their views to change.
Which of us on here hasn’t changed a belief, due to personal and first-hand experience?
I used to be a white-lighter, shunning demons and angels as artefacts of a corrupt J/C culture that made no sense - now, they’re among the beings I turn to for help in all kinds of matters. Am I a fake for this? Sorry, no - I’m sincerely doing experiential work, which by its nature means unfolding new discoveries - and I doubt I’m “done” yet (doubt there even IS a “done” of absolute truth to be reached).
And I don’t sell or trade anything I do, so the implication E.A. is backtracking for money, how does that work when a lot of us have migrated from other paths, without that as the motivation?
I’m not saying this because I want to be a fairy in E.A.'s heaven one day or something - I’m saying it because to call someone out, or imply they’re a hypocrite for evolving their views, for changing them ALONE, and nothing else? IMO that’s tantamount to the fixed dogma of the churches and of the Book religions, where nothing is permitted to change and the Word is always paramount above life as it’s lived, and I don’t rate them very highly.
The appeal of “A pact with Satan himself” is immense, for sure, but which of us doesn’t make our living marketing on the intersection of what we do best, and what people will pay us for?
Maybe E.A. is inconsistant, crazy, whatever, I can’t answer for that because I don’t know him, but I do know from walking the road myself that beliefs can change, beings previously shunned (or given outright disblief) can rapidly move to the forefront of your practice, and daily life. So, maybe he had the same kind of things happen, that led to a change of stance on the Satan issue?
Satan is real, though, or at least some being of immense darkness, and immense power, who can be called upon by that name is real - I hope E.A. releases some of the video of these pacts later, like he did with the Lucifer & Azazel pacts, I’ll be interested to watch it, and I think attempts to judge the sincerity of this work prior to that are misled.
That’s all JMO as a member, obviously NOT a mod comment or anything, I just look back over how far I’ve changed and see it as a sign of growth, not weakness.