I found this video where EA talks about it. He says He doesn’t like controlling the energy. It made me wonder if im just wired differently. He doesn’t deny the potency of it however. Wondering if other magicians feel the same?
Also magicians just to focused on the sex aspect and not so much the magick. Not using the sexual energy to manifest or reach higher mental states. They just get caught up in the lust.
It’s difficult for me to control the orgasmic energy and to stay focused but I’ve seen results. The Lwa as well as Odhinn and Freyr have been giving me help in developing this skill. But damn. It’s hard to stay focused when you enter that state of ecstasy especially when you’re in trance as it seems to magnify that state.
It seems like losing control is something the general black magician doesn’t like, hence the difficulties with sexual and physical spirits for long periods of interaction.
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It’s difficult for me to control the orgasmic energy and to stay focused…[/quote]
In my experience, the more you try to “control” it, the harder it gets to reach full energetic potential. But the more you’re into it the less vivid and more physically stronger it becomes, and the dry orgasm never ends, because the peak gets higher and higher. Each peak increases the orgasm, and the only way to end it is to release it manually by hand. Control, at least in this particular practice, is very restricting and limiting.
Did someone said “Viagra”? Pffft…
I didn’t really relate much to that, because we do a LOT of sex magick of various kinds, and while yes it’s different to the “hump like bunnies” kind of sex, it’s worthwhile and also neither aspect (sex or magick) detracts from the other. 
So are you saying its ego? Like im the boss I need to be in the control of every operation so much im not giving the spirit leeway.
I wonder if trust is an issue as well. You have to trust your sex magick partner to an extent. Even if its a one time encounter for magical purposes. Nothing against EA he has a right to his opinion but he’s said he doesn’t see the benefit in marriage unless you have children. Isn’t that attitude going to effect long term relationships?
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So are you saying its ego? Like im the boss I need to be in the control of every operation so much im not giving the spirit leeway.[/quote]
Pretty much. Ego is often an issue, at least when it comes to male magicians trying to control a succubus entity when interacting with it. The issue can occur when the magician is trying to gain control over the situation, rather than submitting to the intimate interaction. Succubus and Incubus entities also have a predatory behavior, and the darker they are, the tougher they become.
I’m certain E.A have a lot of respect to these kind of practices, and sees a lot of potency to it, but I’ve also seen some discomfort from him regarding these kind of spirits in general and Lilith specifically. Even very experienced black magicians can get intimidated by her.
The problem I see in that is that your bringing someone else into your own mastery over energy.
It’s to easy to get lost in just wanting to orgasm. Then feelings arise for the other person which can get in the way of everything.
I mean this is all for me personally. I personally like to have sex when I need to release that energy so I can focus on the serious stuff. Like taking a shit I guess. Sometimes you just have to release it.
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The problem I see in that is that your bringing someone else into your own mastery over energy.
It’s to easy to get lost in just wanting to orgasm. Then feelings arise for the other person which can get in the way of everything.
I mean this is all for me personally. I personally like to have sex when I need to release that energy so I can focus on the serious stuff. Like taking a shit I guess. Sometimes you just have to release it.[/quote]
If you’re talking about masturbation, then I can agree with you. But a sexual interaction with another person, whether a spirit or a human, is never about yourself and your own needs and pleasure. That’s your ego, and fear of not being in control, doing the talk.
How do you learn to master your energy? Not surely by yourself, I assume. We can only master our own energy by interacting with others energies, and having the ability to sense it.
In my opinion, you’re seeing a problem where there is none. You’re seeing a potential ally being in your way of nothing.
I’m not speaking in the behalf of my own path, or trying to be a spokesperson of it. But sometimes, our egos can be the highest obstacle when it comes to progression and ascension. There should by some ego to it, on that I agree, but there’s a lot of perspectives to consider as well. That includes the spirits we work with.