@Lexner_32 -You’re not gonna like this, Sweetheart, but Maxx is correct. (Although, MAXX, you really didn’t hafta be quite so gruff!)
That said, I’m going to offer some practical advice, because I think you’re suffering from what I call ‘stage fright’… being that you have this idea in your head “I don’t know enough - I don’t have that kind of power yet - What if I screw it up - What if nothing happens; I’ll feel like a failure” … I believe you get the idea.
So, here's the advice:
I want you to work with what you already know; I want you to PERFORM Magick. And I want you to perform so many spells, so many castings, so many rituals, that you lose count. That you can’t even remember all the things you’ve asked for. I want you to exhaust every desire you have - just empty yourself.
I think you’ll be amazed at the effects “Performing Magick ANYWAY” will yield, both within & without. Go for it Lexner, go for it! ;)Z
but then I must tell you that you received something other than what I vibrated…cause it was not meant to be harsh…I made a special effort to be a light message. Sorry if it came across otherwise.
So SERIOUS, Maxx.
Lighten up, dear One. Being humorous here! And your response to Lexner was very well phrased - and accurate, I think. It was a bit gruff, to me, but then I’m tender-hearted. As for your ‘vibe’ that was mostly my attempt at lighthearted banter … sorry! :o Z
[quote=“lexner_32, post:26, topic:112”]That wasn’t what I asked for. Read again the post in which I asked for experiences and some SPECIFIC things.
I need success stories as a proof that sigil magick is not a hoax.
Have you ever tried sigil magick or are you just following E.A. religiouly?[/quote]
I did you the courtesy of going back and reading your first coupla posts regarding your request for success stories and your questions surrounding the veracity & effectiveness of sigil magick.
Also, I read response after response that included successes, tips, suggestions & all manner of practical advise, born of personal experiences. MANY of us responded, all in ways that were meaningful & important. We offered you what we considered valuable.
This ENTIRE FORUM is chock full - brimming over with dozens upon dozen of “success stories”. If you REALLY want answers … GO FIND THEM YOURSELF.
How dare you speak to your Fellow Mages in such a petulant, childish, disrespectful way. You really need to get a grip here; and stop pitching a fit…
Either grow up and approach us with more maturity & openess or go to another forum … we are not your mommy & daddy. Its not our role to make everything all better for you so you won’t have to do anything to help YOURSELF! You, personally, are welcome here, but that whiny demanding attitude has got to go, dude. :-l Z
I’ve found that this usually has to be figured out for ones self but I’m going to say it anyway and elaborate more in a topic I’ve been planning on putting up at a later date.
There’s no such thing as a “hoax” in magick as far as my experience goes no matter what ritual you perform whether it be candle magick or something as new and yet undefined as grant morrisons hypersigils these things are simply a medium for ones own power and as long as you enter the ritual with certainty of what you desire and leave the ritual with certainty of success there’s not going to be any question as to whether or not you’re going to make it work.
Oh Bran, don’t be shy… I always read your posts because their funny, informative & sincere. Besides… I think I already kicked open that door - whether thats good, bad or indifferent, its done. There’s no un-kicking it! Z
I have to disagree with you Bran. To take Zoe’s metaphor of the family atmosphere of this forum I think we need a few gruff uncles to give people a good kick in the pants to get them on the right track when they need it.
Also, I read response after response that included successes, tips, suggestions & all manner of practical advise, born of personal experiences. MANY of us responded, all in ways that were meaningful & important. We offered you what we considered valuable.
No. I asked for more objective answers based on experience rather than personal opinions. Probably I didn’t asked this before, so I apologize if I wasn’t clear enough.
This ENTIRE FORUM is chock full - brimming over with dozens upon dozen of "success stories". If you REALLY want answers ... GO FIND THEM YOURSELF.
I browsed the entire forum and I didn’t find sigil magick success stories. However, if you know where are they, you may post the link here.
Let me make clear something…
What are success stories? Well, that’s easy to answer. They follow the following format:
For example: "I once opened (name of entity)'s sigil. It took me (number of minutes) minutes to start seeing the lines and curves of the sigil dissapear and reappear… After (number of days) days, I got this… "
Got it?
How dare you speak to your Fellow Mages in such a petulant, childish, disrespectful way. You really need to get a grip here; and stop pitching a fit...
No, you are wrong. I wasn’t offensive in any way. I just kept asking the same questions because instead of to-the-point answers you were posting just personal opinion. (They were probably based on experience, but they were just opinion anyway). Those answers were too general, and I wanted them centered around sigil magick only. I wanted answers such as success stories about ONLY sigil magick. Sorry if I sounded offensive to you. Again, that is just your personal opinion.
Probably I didn’t asked my questions very clearly and because of that you couldn’t see them. Here they are again, so you can give me objective answers.
Please, keep this discussion centered only on sigil magick and these questions. Let’s avoid personal opinion or too general answers. Just that
What have been your successes and failures with sigil magick?
Here, I want you to post some experiences in which you make reference to some working and what you got. For example, if you opened, let’s say, Paimon’s sigil, you can post if the influence you wanted to do was indeed successfully or the target didn’t react at all… Follow the format mentioned above
What have been your experiences with the method of scrying in Works of Darkness?
This method involved nothing more than sigil magick. It is rare that none of you have commented on this. If you don’t know in which page of the book is it, is page 117. The chapter on sigil magick is on page 102, so you can also look at it.
How much time does sigil magick take to manifest a desire?
I know it can be variable. Don’t answer: “it depends on you and your ability to…”. I want to know how many days in average. You know, three days, seven days, two weeks… Numeric answers
How much time takes in average (you know, this can vary, so I ask AVERAGE) to start seeing the visual effects of the opening?
If you don’t know which are these visual effects, go to pages 106-107 of WoD. However, since you have done this before, you don’t need to go to that pages Again, numeric answers.
What are your experiences with Abramelin’s Squares?
Remember, they were mentioned in Baneful Magick and Evoking Eternity (The chapter on evoking legions). Questing after Visions just mentions that opening these squares with sigil magick is enough to cause dramatic effects on reality. I want to read which goals have you manifested through this method. If you have never used them, just state that.
[quote=“Maxx, post:27, topic:112”]Unbelievable…I wash my hands of this.
Maxx[/quote]
DITTO, Maxx … ditto. Z
DITTO, Bran … ditto. Z
Not My function here to convince anybody that Magick of any sort - or in general, WORKS. To me, thats a bottomless pit.
****** @lexner_32 - I wish you well in your quest for answers, I really do. But I’m out of this one. Zoe
[quote=“Zoe, post:37, topic:112”][quote=“Maxx, post:27, topic:112”]Unbelievable…I wash my hands of this.
Maxx[/quote]
DITTO, Maxx … ditto. Z
DITTO, Bran … ditto. Z
Not My function here to convince anybody that Magick of any sort - or in general, WORKS. To me, thats a bottomless pit.
****** @lexner_32 - I wish you well in your quest for answers, I really do. But I’m out of this one. Zoe[/quote]
I now know why you couldn’t give me any useful answer. In another post I asked for the same technique, you said you NEVER HAD TRIED IT.
It is not polite to answer questions on something you know NOTHING.
Here is the proof:
Quote from: lexner_32 on Yesterday at 03:23 PM
I once tried to open Dantalion's sigil to make a girl fall in love with me.
It never worked.
Who has tried to open his sigil as E.A. specified in Works of Darkness and had success?
@lexner_32: I have not tried EA’s method from the book you specified, but hang in there - surely somebody has and will answer soon! Z
Lexner, I know of a fine shop in Bagdad. They sell magic lamps there. Go get yourself one, rub it and share your arrogant attitude with the Ginny that will come out.
I despice people like you, especially when they make demands, so as far as I am concerned… Go **** yourself!!! Hopefully everybody will ignore you.
[quote=“Bran, post:39, topic:112”]Lexner, I know of a fine shop in Bagdad. They sell magic lamps there. Go get yourself one, rub it and share your arrogant attitude with the Ginny that will come out.
I despice people like you, especially when they make demands, so as far as I am concerned… Go **** yourself!!! Hopefully everybody will ignore you.
There… I’ve said it.[/quote]
These were not demands. Just questions. And many of you have never practiced sigil magick. You must not feel offended because some non-experience based answers were not useful.