Or do they present themselves as a gender of their choosing?
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Excellent question. They seem to be fluid in this regard and choose what best suits their purpose with each magickian/each time. I donât think gender exists for them the way we perceive it here.
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Read the Principle of Gender in this book for a more solid in-depth understanding of why spirits appear as they do: The Kybalion PDF, archived link (we donât trade PDFs on here as a general rule but this one is okay, the text is out of copyright and the edition was given for download from the site that created it).
Gender theory as is currently in the headlines is a human social construct, created by a man who thought it was a good idea to force children to simulate sexual acts, and drove his primary human guinea-pig to suicide, after mutilating him and lying about the results of his sick experiment. This is why understanding the metaphysics will be more useful in comprehending this.
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Link this story for me would you.
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Couldnât agree more. Great reply, thanks.
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No problem:
John William Money (8 July 1921 â 7 July 2006) was a New Zealand psychologist, sexologist and author, specializing in research into sexual identity and biology of gender.
⌠During his professional life, Money was respected as an expert on sexual behavior, especially known for his views that gender was learned rather than innate. However, it was later revealed that his most famous case of David Reimer was fundamentally flawed.[16] In 1966, a botched circumcision left eight-month-old Reimer without a penis. Money persuaded the babyâs parents that sex reassignment surgery would be in Reimerâs best interest. At the age of 22 months, Reimer underwent an orchidectomy, in which his testicles were surgically removed. He was reassigned to be raised as female and given the name Brenda. Money further recommended hormone treatment to which the parents agreed. Money then recommended a surgical procedure to create an artificial vagina, which the parents refused. Money published a number of papers reporting the reassignment as successful.
For several years, Money reported on Reimerâs progress as the âJohn/Joan caseâ, describing apparently successful female gender development and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction even in non-intersex cases.
⌠David Reimerâs case came to international attention in 1997 when he told his story to Milton Diamond, an academic sexologist, who persuaded Reimer to allow him to report the outcome in order to dissuade physicians from treating other infants similarly.[18] Soon after, Reimer went public with his story, and John Colapinto published a widely disseminated and influential account in Rolling Stone magazine in December 1997.[19]
On July 1, 2002,[20] Brian was found dead from an overdose of antidepressants. On May 4, 2004, after suffering years of severe depression, financial instability, and marital troubles,[21] David committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a sawed-off shotgun at the age of 38. Reimerâs parents have stated that Moneyâs methodology was responsible for the deaths of both of their sons.[22]
Source: John Money - Wikipedia
David Peter Reimer (born Bruce Peter Reimer; 22 August 1965 â 4 May 2004) was a Canadian man born male but reassigned as a girl and raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was severely injured during a botched circumcision in infancy.[2]
The psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful and as evidence that gender identity is primarily learned. The academic sexologist Milton Diamond later reported that Reimerâs realization he was not a girl crystallized between the ages of 9 and 11 years[3] and he transitioned to living as a male at age 15. Well known in medical circles for years anonymously as the âJohn/Joanâ case, Reimer later went public with his story to help discourage similar medical practices. He died by suicide after suffering years of severe depression, financial instability, and a troubled marriage.[4]
⌠Reimer said that Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving âthrusting movementsâ, with David playing the bottom role. Reimer said that, as a child, he had to get âdown on all foursâ with his brother, Brian Reimer, âup behind his buttâ with âhis crotch againstâ his âbuttocksâ. Reimer said that Money forced David, in another sexual position, to have his âlegs spreadâ with Brian on top. Reimer said that Money also forced the children to take their âclothes offâ and engage in âgenital inspectionsâ. On âat least one occasionâ, Reimer said that Money took a photograph of the two children doing these activities. Moneyâs rationale for these various treatments was his belief that âchildhood âsexual rehearsal playââ was important for a âhealthy adult gender identityâ.[16]
For several years, Money reported on Reimerâs progress as the âJohn/Joan caseâ. Money wrote, âThe childâs behavior is so clearly that of an active little girl and so different from the boyish ways of her twin brother.â[26] Notes by a former student at Moneyâs lab state that, during the follow-up visits, which occurred only once a year, Reimerâs parents routinely lied to lab staff about the success of the procedure. The twin brother, Brian, later developed schizophrenia.[18]
⌠By the age of 13 years, Reimer was experiencing suicidal depression and he told his parents he would take his own life if they made him see Money again.[28] Finally, on March 14, 1980, Reimerâs parents told him the truth about his gender reassignment,[29] following advice from Reimerâs endocrinologist and psychiatrist. At 14, having been informed of his past by his father, Reimer decided to assume a male gender identity, calling himself David. He underwent treatment to reverse the reassignment, including testosterone injections, a double mastectomy, and phalloplasty operations.[30][31] On September 22, 1990, he married Jane Fontane and would adopt her three children.[32][33]
Source: David Reimer - Wikipedia
This is John Money on pedophilia:
If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven whoâs intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual ⌠then I would not call it pathological in any way.
So, because the current ideas about gender identity that are circulating do stem from this manâs warped experimentation and lethal arrogance, I feel a brief and passing reference to it is legitimate, particularly for people concerned with fairness, protecting the vulnerable, and avoiding authoritarian approaches.
The Kybalion is a far more useful magickal reference.
I also did some practical work on using gender polarities within the magicianâs own practice:
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Didnât know this story, but it is fascinating. Thank you for the links.
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Thank you for the links this was interesting. Very sad but interesting.
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They have genders. However some can change genders not all but some. Just as some can shapeshift and some can polymorph but not all. Theyâre not all the same and theyâre born and grow up just as we do, just they stop aging physically atleast a handful of them do anyway.
Some are even born with both genders or neither like elementals and only take on the form of a masculine, feminine, or androgynous figure.
I find that we just assume they can be whatever they want in âphysicalâ form because they donât exist here in physical form but then forget their own plane is their physical realm and just because the laws slightly differ from our own that everything must be possible there. Humans learned things from other races we didnât create them out our asses, of course somethings humans did create but things like genders, civilizations, what not that predates us. However, weâre possibly the only race that puts too much thought into which we like, why we like it, which gender wears what, etc.