Djinn date back to Sumer as nature spirits, Jinn alone are shown to have various species within them.
All of the above are spirits of some sort, the distinction between them is academic at best and hotly debated. It is a bit like Christian Demonology and Angelogy, where wars have been fought about the question of how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.
Since Azazel was mentioned, I must point out that in Islam, Azazel (or Azazil) is believed to be Satan (Shaitan), the Angel that rebelled against God and was thus cast into the Abyss, along with the angels that rebelled with him. It gets more complicated still, because according to pre-Islamic belief, which survives to this day, the Azazil were goat-headed demons that lived in the desert.
I have seen Azazelās true form and I can confirm that he is indeed a goat-headed chimera and that he does live deep underground. It is also interesting to note, that if he is indeed a fallen angel, leader of the watchers, as is commonly believed, that there is an entire class of angels in Judaism (one of four), which is made up of chimeras, human-animal hybrids, with the most common being Sphinx-like beings or winged angels with eagle heads. This of course all comes from Egyptian and Mesopotamian mythology.
Good luck sorting all of that outā¦
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I dont think the distinction is purely academic, different race of beings isnāt really just academic. Thereās a variety of difference between them. Though Azazel has been linked back as far as Sumer atleast academically but he has always been tied to goat-like nature spirits, goat-like demons, and various djinn of the Sumer lore.
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Of course there are differences between the various spirit races, but my point is they are all still spirits and we donāt even know what that isā¦
In the popular imagination spirits are disembodied beings, but to anyone who has seen them in the Astral, it is clear they have bodies just like us, though it seems that perhaps it is made of a different kind of, subtler matter.
These beings do not exist in the same reality as us, whether they are shifted to another, perhaps higher dimensional spacetime construct, are phase-shifted, in a parallel universe, or something else entirely is anybodyās guess.
I suspect that in the end, it all has to do with vibration and they simply exist in a realm that does not vibrate at the same wavelength as our own, is therefore not accessible or even visible to us under normal circumstances, yet it is actually very close to us both vibrationally and in terms of physical distance.
The laws of physics and biology are likely very different in these other realms, hence we can witness such strange effects as being able to fly / levitate with ease or find many different kinds of humanoid bodies and human-animal hybrids.
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I donāt really consider them spirits, just as people call their plane the spiritual plane itās only called that by most people because itās not part of our physical. However, for them their plane is their physical, to each other they are solid/solid-esque for elementals and we are spirits. So in the end theyāre not spirits outside of peopleās choice to call what isnāt part of our own physical āspiritsā which is how I see it anyway.
Although, they do have flesh and blood, angels Iāve seen bleed though their blood is not red, dragons Iāve seen bleed red, elementals Iāve seen bleed energy. Their plane simply vibrates on a different density but to be there they and those who project there are part of that density and thus they are able to interact with it. Though my view on the astral is the plane of imagination and collective unconscious so us and other entities go there for various reasons rather than actually live there.
But I do believe our laws are very similar as above so below to that degree, except their laws are not as dense as our own due to our vibrational density vibrating much slower than theirs, etheric plane their home vibrates faster than our own, but we are all linked in a way through the collective unconscious/astral which vibrates faster than both which allows and is the reason why the imagination manifests on a whim there.
Because in their plane those things require practice just as they do here, in the astral/mental you can without even putting any practice in.
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Interesting pointsā¦
In at least one way, their realm is very different and that is in their relationship to time. Again, Iām simplifying, because there are probably many different realms, but the one closest to our own is generally called the Astral.
Iām not sure I subscribe to the whole density classification, it seems to me it is based on a misunderstanding of how higher dimensional realms operate. As far as I can tell, there are different states of matter than here, including one known as liquid light, an impossibility in our realm, pretty much. Those examples would indicate a completely different set of natural laws, not to mention the fact that people can fly around and do all sorts of miraculous things that would contravene the laws of nature in our reality.
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I personally reject the idea of higher and lower planes, to me they all exist in the same space but vibrate faster or slower in their own spectrum. I find the concept of higher and lower always is followed by the new age idea of high=good and divine and low=hellish and demonic but in the astral where you donāt need to practice to do anything and just need your imagination is often a good place to start for new projectors and I personally use it for an astral temple with a few thoughtforms, but eventually Iāll try and get a temple on our energetic layer as well as in the etheric with the right stuff.
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I agree. Higher and Lower actually refers to frequency here. Not that one is better than the other, a deep tone can be just as pleasing, even more so, in fact, than a higher tone.
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You are oversimplifying things a bit. Iblis was considered to be a jinn prior to his ascension as Al Harith (Azazil). Even after his ascension, there is a varying belief that he was still jinn just was granted more authority over the holy land due to being in Allahās favor.
In early Islam, jinn were not considered to be demons. Jinn were initially considered to be neutral spirits that leaned more towards nature. Some jinn were good, some jinn were bad, and then you had those that were neither.
As time went on though, Islam incorporated more Jewish ideals into their religion which in turn painted jinn in a more different light, now jinn were considered to be synonymous to demons.
Yes I know that Iblis did fall, but in early Islam shaitan was not just a title or label for one being, it was used for any jinn that was rebellious or malevolent in nature.
Also, Azazil isnāt the proper term for the goat spirits you are talking about. The beings you are talking about are known as seāirim. Azazil was said to be the chief of them and they really werenāt considered to be demons until Jewish influence. If I remember correctly, the seāirim stem from the shedim and the shedim stem from the lamassu who were considered to be Mesopotamian protection spirits that were associated with the flying class of jinn/genii.
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