^ Same here.
I’m going to take the unpopular stance that both of these songs may not be entirely wholesome, as in, empowering and favouring ascent, based on the fact Trent Reznor was in a pretty dark place when he wrote Closer, though the lyrics are compelling and the song is, when viewed as simply a song, very good.
But I never feel better after playing stuff like that for very long, and I’ve started to notice that more over the years, that the lyrics in these things are invocations of some actually pretty fucked up and disempowering stuff.
As for Black Hole Sun, again, amazing song, dubious lyrics if viewed as an invocation by the godself within you, as you repeat them in your mind - tragic effects on their creator.
I realise defining large chunks of artistically excellent music as toxic to ascent is a tough sell around here, and the opposite of being all cool n’ shit but them’s my honest thoughts on it, pretty much ALL popular music ever since the fifties is an invocation of some kind of fucked-upness, ruined loves, damaged hopes, despair, loathing, desires that cause misery and loss…
Viewed as catharsis and entertainment they’re probably innocuous, but cnsider that the oldest religio-magickal traditions we have handed down to us, that of the Sumerians, combined prayer and spell-like incantations to music as a method of making reality change in accordance with those words sung to a rhythm.
And I bet you can remember advertising jingles and show themes from your early childhood, but have probably forgotten most of the words spoken to you, even by loving parents and grandparents, so the power of music to enter the mind and remain alive and unchanged runs deep.
My verdict? They may be working with demons and shit, and influenced by them, but I give this stuff a wide berth, and have felt happier and more powerful as a result.
I am officially totally uncool for that, and truly dgaf!