How do the spirits you work communicate with you?
You hear voices?
Ethereal and astral meetups, lucid dreams, regular dreams, sleep paralysis, and telepathy. Usually, but not always, out of body in some way or another where we can clearly speak back and forth in the same manner as two humans would in the physical. Also by vibrating metal objects sometimes to give me hints at things, and partially possessing other people to speak through them.
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How do you experience telepathy?
So far:
maybe a picture in my mind, usually some kind of image of them in my minds eye but often not what I had imagined prior to how they would appear
sometimes a dream that answers a question or most frequently one or two words drops in as a response that doesnāt appear to be my own thoughts that if I meditate on I get something out of
ā¦ or I start hearing the same thing repeated by different peopleā¦ and thatās outside of the ritualā¦ I assume Iāve been answered inside it but it takes me longer to pick it up so Iām hearing it that way
Often physical sensations of a presence- atmospheric changes and my body may react with a physical sensation
One visible energy ball and being āguidedā telepathically through doing something
And one entity that I feel a physical gentle breeze from who simply knocks me out, probably are communicating but I canāt perceive it currently in the moment however appears to be drawing situations in that later make sense
I mostly just sense āsomethingā but itās minimal at the time of the ritual and need to rely on banishing to actually be convinced I get anything beyond my own imaginationā¦
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As Feris said sometimes through astral or dreams among other things.
I, personally/specifically, communicate either through clairaudience (āhearing voicesā), divination methods (cards, dice, pendulum, scrying is typically used for demons in goetic work), and spirit board.
Clairaudience sounds like a different voice speaking directly to you, but not in your ears. At least thatās the best way I can describe. When you imagine a person speaking you have full control of it. When you hear an entity speaking, there is an instinctual knowledge itās not if your control.
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Usually through dreams/lucid dreams. Then by feelings, images/impressions, sometimes words (sounds alot like my own mind voice but usually a little different tone).
Iāve gotten better as āsensingā a spirits energies when they show up.
Rarely Iāll have a more āphysicalā manifestation, and the time that I have had one - I donāt know what caused them, so I canāt reproduce the resultsā¦ Yet.
Is that your experience when the spirit manifested in the Triangle? Or have you used spirit seals?
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Usually I just open a spirits sigil to communicate, or petition.
The times where I experienced very physical (but not in the sense your probably thinking) manifestions was one after lighting a candle that I had just carved the spirits sigil into, and two after writing a petition. Said spirit showed up later in the night and both times was via me feeling a sudden change in the atmosphere in my room. Like a strong and sorta heavy presence/energy.
Neither time, did I intend for those things to happen. Plus I havenāt been able to achieve the same result. I think they were the spirits way of letting me know they were real/serious. This was when I first began, and was doubtful.
However, despite me not being able to reproduce that result. Those experiences did cement the reality of spirits/paranormal stuff in my mind. If I hadnāt experienced that I might have not taken things seriously/been doubtful. So it was like a wake-up call I guess.
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Usually in the morning after Iāve waken up from the last of my dreams. I lay in silence for a bit, and actually hear the voices whispering to me, almost like Iād hear another person. Almost every sentence is in English, with one word or phrase thatās either a Japanese word or from another language that I donāt know or barely know at all. Thereās a brief moment that lasts for about a minute or two shortly after Iāve woken up, and only in that short window of time am I able to receive telepathic messages clearly. I do not know how to tap into it at any other time.
Some examples that I managed to jot down shortly after:
āDownside of sorato (or serato?)ā
āYour (Or her?) higher self in Sakrtā
āCalads (something about lower self)ā
āCopper, red, or agade. Choose your order.ā
ā[Morals?] are high, but are merely constraints of ones who have delusions.ā
ā[I] suggest you make space for [powing?]ā
The first word spoken each time was usually less audible than others, in a sort of āfade inā manner. It sounded like Baelās voice who spoke these things to me, over the course of several days in late March. Initially I assumed it was my higher self, but now Iām almost certain the voice was Bael, since it sounded almost identical to his voice during an astral experience to his palace.
I did not know what sorato/serato, sakrt, calads, agade or powing even meant, or that they were even real words until I looked them up afterward. There was more to the āsorato/seratoā message that I didnāt pick up, and I probably only managed to remember and jot down like 20% of the content of those messages. It was a very clever means on Baelās (or whoever) part to verify to me that it was real, though, through the use of foreign words.
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I havenāt done full evocation, and it is extremely rare that I purposefully try to receive communication from a spirit (As in, do a ritual with that as the sole aim), as usually there is not really anything Iād like to ask that I couldnāt know from divination. But otherwise ācommunicationā would come to me in very loose ways. For example, some time ago I was testing a method of using divination to contact certain deities, and then I prayed to one of the gods to thank them in general and thank them for answering my questions through divination. When I thanked them for that, I got this extremely distinct feeling or āknowingā that they did not answer my question, as clear as day, like they were communicating that to me specifically, without words or images, just a āknowingā. I then did divination and found that communicating with the gods with that method of contact was not possible with cleromancy.
Otherwise after a ritual I may also receive a psychic āknowingā about certain spirits and it seems that may be how I receive communication from them. But like I said it is extremely rare that do a ritual just to communicate with a spirit, this usually just comes naturally as part of it. Otherwise, once I did communicate with a god (As far as I know it was successful, although I never checked for confirmation) and that was through divination. So I have not received communication from a spirit in full evocation, which would be seeing them and hearing them in that moment.
Iāve also received communication from gods and possibly some spirits through dreams before (As far as I can tell), and through other ways.
Yeah thatās how it comes for me too! Usually when chanting the enns.
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It shocked me the first time it happened to me. Managed to surprise me the second time too! Compared to the usual communication, that was more of a upfront and almost blunt manifestation. Hard to miss.
The two instances were months apart as well.
Was it a sudden or gradual change in the atmosphere of wherever you were - for feeling the presence/energy?
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If Iām not mistaken, I believe the occult theory behind Enns is that their purpose is to create a certain energy or enviroment in the room that will better allow the Demon to manifest. Probably a poor way to word that but I think you know what I mean.
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What about writing a petition, or lighting a candle (with demon sigil carved into it?) Thatās when the spirit manifested to me, for the petition though the manifestation took place like an hour after I had wrote it. At night.
Neither of those creates environments? Although maybe the candle does. I suppose the factor that I totally didnāt expect either (and therefore any mental blocks were down) to happen helped.
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Iām not really sure about candles. Itās a bit of a tricky once if a scent is related to it as that has purpose in magick ritual. But otherwise Iām not use.
But if you bring a spirit into your area, it can definitely change the energy. And especially cause different sensations of presence. I was just saying that Enns tend to be used to create a certain environment that helps with connection (If Iām not mistaken).
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Hmm, I didnāt try to evoke but the spirit could have chosen to come to my āareaā (due to the nature of my petition), which probably caused it.
The candle wasnāt scented.
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Very suddenly! Itās like itās not there, then it is there!
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Yep, same!
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Yeah I was told the enns chant builds an atmosphere for the demon.
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I usually scratch the name of the spirit of my candle does anyone else do this too?
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