What do you think about smoking in therms of spirituality and magic? Besides effects over health I’m interested in knowing the occult side, if there is such a thing… I ask this because after having serious health issues and received blood from unknown people I started smoking. I don’t feel comfortable smoking but an spiritual guide told me it was kinda necessary at that time cause it would benefit me somehow. What do you think guys? Thanks all.


Quit that shit


Do you trust the spirit? I mean, have they come through for you before?


I have read that cigarettes have a negative impact on both physical and spiritual health. If you evoke the “spirit” of cigarettes, it is literally a spirit of poison (according to Taylor Ellwood in his book Inner Alchemy). Addictions of any sort, be it drugs, alcohol, or porn, are seen as spiritually deadening, and go against the process of Ascent.

That being said, though, there are a lot of magicians who smoke, or use drugs, so I think it is really up to you. Everyone is different, and there is a spiritual path known as the Path of Poison, where you poison yourself to the brink of death in order to learn and progress spiritually. I don’t see why it would be any less valid than any other path.


I smoked ciggs for 15 years. I dont see anything good coming from destroying your lungs and putting hundreds of nasty chemicals into your body DAILY.


Tobacco’s used used in ayahuasca ceremonies, and in other spiritual practices in the locations where it grows naturally.

If you need to smoke, look into the best quality organic rolling tobacco you can get, the mass manufaturers put literal poisons into their products.

I mean I am pretty much against it in general and wish everyone would stop, but if you’re going to do it there are safer and less safe ways.

I don’t know whether @Uncle-Al wuld have anything to add on this…


Or switch to an e-cig. It’s still not completely healthy for you, but it’s worlds away from the plethora of toxins that each cigarette dumps into your system.

Tobacco can be used shamanically, but I would suggest growing and using Nicotiana Rustica over prepackaged cancer sticks.


I quit smoking regular cigarettes at the beginning of the year. Still smoke the occasional cigar when i feel like it, maybe 2 a month. Tobacco can be used as incense for Mars so its good for war magic and if your into voodoo and hoodoo its pretty hard to avoid . In my 20’s I used to put sigils and runes on my cigs for various effects. Most common I used was one that made my enemy dizzy that I used to smoke before fights.


Santeria and Palo all require the use of tobacco smoke for certain ceremonies and deity veneration.

Aside from that, though, smoking is a largely personal choice. There are many Santeros who will not put down the cigar, and there are some who outright refuse to smoke aside from rituals.

Interestingly enough, some of the most spiritually advanced Santeros and espiritistas I’ve met in my life smoke like chimneys, often having acquired the taste from either often by being possessed by spirits who love to smoke or just from performing so many rituals. Same with alcohol, too, actually. Go figure.

And, I’ve also met adepts who don’t consume anything that might be a tad vitriolic to their health and are some mighty fuckers.


Obligatory disclaimer - I am not endorsing that you do smoke. That decision is entirely yours, physical ramifications and all that. Just some observations from my side of the fence.


I hear you there, i dislike drinking and would discourage anyone from ever starting to be quiet honest, but I 've done some kickass work in the past with one or more bottles of wine in me, or the day right after feeling like hell.


Some of my guerreros don’t even get out up out of bed if I don’t spray some firewater or exhale some smoke their way. Looking at you, Exu Alahuana.

But on the topic of personally consuming alcohol, there’s something about being drunk that gets you closer to the spirits. Just a weird raw connection - don’t know if it’s because normal inhibitions go out the window and there’s very little holding you back; no fear, no incredulity, etc.


There’s this, as well:

Drinking alcohol may enhance a person’s problem solving skills, according to a new study.

Scientists found that men who either drank two pints of beer or two glasses of wine before solving brain teasers not only got more questions right, they also were quicker in delivering correct answers, compared to men who answered the questions sober.

While the latest findings go against the traditional beliefs that alcohol impairs analytical thinking and rational thoughts, lead author Professor Jennifer Wiley of the University of Illinois at Chicago discovered that alcohol may enhance creativity problem solving by reducing the mind’s working memory capacity, which is the ability to concentrate on something in particular.

“Working memory capacity is considered the ability to control one’s attention,” Wiley told the Federation of Associations in Behavioral and Brain Sciences (FABBS). “It’s the ability to remember one thing while you’re thinking about something else.”

Source: Drinking Alcohol May Significantly Enhance Problem Solving Skills


Hi I smoke, but due to stress of my neighbours. I would go mad if I can’t get one but since I’ve been on here working with king paimon, Lucifer and Lilith I have cut down from 4 50gram pouches and 200 cigarettes every two weeks to 2 pouches and 20 cigarettes


@Lady_Eva, I think this addiction came with the blood I received. I was also vegetarian and started eating meat after the blood transfusion. In fact that “guide” came to me when I was in despair, thinking about killing myself. He said “smoking will be good for you right now because it will protect you of certain influences which are trying to take control of you and your life”. He also said it would benefit me because its protective properties. Well after a few days of cigarettes my mind cleared and I started thinking right again! I’m not endorsing smoking, but it had an important role in my sanity. But the guide said “good for you right now”, I think this means I must stop as soon as I can walk my path without such crutch.


I don’t drink alcohol anymore either, but I noticed that when I used to drink I’d have a much easier time of triggering out-of-body experiences during the night. Probably has something to do with it screwing with your REM cycles.


I offered up my nicotine addiction to Belial as a sacrifice and I haven’t smoked or vaped since, for what it’s worth. :+1:


I switched to vape. Best thing ever


I was thinking about something like this, I mean, calling some spirit or entity to take off this addiction from me. Any idea on how such can be done? Thanks! :slight_smile:


I petitioned spirits of Mars to banish my urges and cravings for all nicotine products and to keep my willpower strong and make cigarettes seem absolutely disgusting to me. I asked for this to happen in less than two weeks and had great success in less than 4 days. Within the first 2 days they tasted like burnt hair and started to smell disgusting, by day 4 I didn’t want them anymore. I haven’t smoked in a year and a half.


Good idea! Thanks @Abra-Cadabra!