It does seem like, while magick can get you results with people in general, it really can’t help when it comes to people having radical changes as in who they are. I say it especially in the context of human relationships, because I’ve gotten some results here and there but it didn’t change the core values of people and eventually the relationship I had with them suffered.
Has any of you used magick of any kind to create substantial changes in someone you were dealing with? As in, recreating them as a whole new person?
Maybe try the angels in the book angels of alchemy while the magick in this book is aimed more at the one practicing to create changes within There is second part where you evoke the same angels so with direct contact you can ask for changes in someone else. Let us know how it goes.
Thank you. Is it true that working with angels can be more dangerous than working with demons? I’ve seen some testimonies of people who claim angels can not only refuse your request but also unleash some difficult energies if they think your request is morally incorrect.
Changing someone else’s core being would be an extremely difficult task if you ask me. It’s hard enough to change your own inner core. I’m sure it’s possible, butI think it would require a lot of effort that might be put to better use somewhere else.
As far as angels go, they don’t really have morals like we do and they are no more or less dangerous than any other type of entity. They embody different qualities and types of energy.
Changing someone at deeper levels require the inducing of Trauma, and if you are going beyond the use of magick it would essentially go into illegal territory due to what you would have to do.
If you are trying to change someone with magick and they themselves are some sort of practitioner, then you are wasting your time. They essentially have to Consciously & with their own Free Will accept the change.
I spent nearly two hours yesterday thinking about your question, considering everything from the process and principles of how a person establishes their core values, to how to uncover their true inner needs and use various techniques to provide them with information that can challenge and overturn their existing core values, continuously guiding them to absorb and refine themselves until this transformation is complete.
However, if you’re limiting it to achieving this solely through magic, it’s almost impossible—unless you’re powerful enough to simply choose the right timeline to completely change someone.
I agree with others’ responses, for something like this, summoning other entities and asking them to accomplish it might be more appropriate. But regardless, this is a massive undertaking, and you’re likely to pay a significant price.
Whether angels or demons, both are dangerous. I believe that before engaging with such entities, one should first dedicate several years to proper personal cultivation. However, most people nowadays don’t approach it this way.
Alternatively, you could seek a reliable mentor to help you connect with spirits they frequently work with, as they would be familiar with these spirits’ personalities and untouchable sensitive points.
You might also start by seeking help from well-known, relatively friendly, and trustworthy spirits, such as planetary spirits. Discuss with them and ask for their recommendations on spirits that might suit your needs.
Thank you, this is a very helpful angle to this situation.
I’m not particularly looking to change anyone right now, what I need can be achieved by changing myself. My question was out of curiosity. In “law of attraction” and “manifestation” forums there are countless stories of people who claims they changed someone completely just by using their “mental power”. Way back then I used to think I could do the same but I never achieved it, nor did anyone I know. It’s very likely that those “success stories” were fake.
On the other hand, magick has proven more effective to me, but I believe it is close to impossible to make someone change unless they really want to and are willing to put in the work. I just wanted to know if anyone here did that but, as everyone has said before, it’s not feasible as long as free will exists.