C.J.Lee!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlOxWczu3K8

Awesome! :smiley:

Agree, and I can in some way relate to that discussion.

But there are some aspects I disagree to, especially the “out of control” point of view. In my experience, the most extensive parts were at the beginning. That darkness which was very powerful, but in no way hostile or malevolent. It was just a mere representation of that physical energy that lasted in an extensive period of time.

I have no experience with Naamah, but I have daily experiences with Lilith on the other hand. She was just as dark as my “succubus”(I hate that word), but not near as intimidating, physical, solid and cold as her.

That dark aspect is, depending on your own goal and purpose with these kind of experiences, a “trial” to get through before reaching that other phase. It’s often common that it leads to marriages and intimate relationships on a level that is beyond a human/human relationship. That’s were the “out of control” point of view fall apart, in my opinion. It is not about them, doing our “bidding” by command. It’s about development on an individual level, to get knowledge and learn on terms were all involved gets beneficial. When time passes by, the relationship and the sexual aspect of it, becomes just as “normal” and common as any good and healthy relationship.

Mutual agreements based on choices of the free will, is not only in the hands of the magician. It’s not even in the hands of the spirit or entity, but from a Source of the higher hierarchy. Any form of hesitation from either side would halt the progression.

It was a very interesting video. I liked it. :slight_smile:

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[quote=“succupedia, post:2, topic:5315”]Agree, and I can in some way relate to that discussion.

But there are some aspects I disagree to, especially the “out of control” point of view. In my experience, the most extensive parts were at the beginning. That darkness which was very powerful, but in no way hostile or malevolent. It was just a mere representation of that physical energy that lasted in an extensive period of time.

I have no experience with Naamah, but I have daily experiences with Lilith on the other hand. She was just as dark as my “succubus”(I hate that word), but not near as intimidating, physical, solid and cold as her.

That dark aspect is, depending on your own goal and purpose with these kind of experiences, a “trial” to get through before reaching that other phase. It’s often common that it leads to marriages and intimate relationships on a level that is beyond a human/human relationship. That’s were the “out of control” point of view fall apart, in my opinion. It is not about them, doing our “bidding” by command. It’s about development on an individual level, to get knowledge and learn on terms were all involved gets beneficial. When time passes by, the relationship and the sexual aspect of it, becomes just as “normal” and common as any good and healthy relationship.

Mutual agreements based on choices of the free will, is not only in the hands of the magician. It’s not even in the hands of the spirit or entity, but from a Source of the higher hierarchy. Any form of hesitation from either side would halt the progression.

It was a very interesting video. I liked it. :)[/quote]

To me, these aspects of the self only become “out of control” when you repress or refuse to face them. I was the malevolent being in this, not the entities or energies that inhabit the Lilith Klipot. They initially showed me what I was becoming if I didn’t face the things I repressed growing up in a Catholic home. The feelings and desires that I chose to face in this sphere are what made me feel “out of control” but under the influence of the Tutelary spirit Naamah I was able to learn the true nature of myself and utilize the more animalistic aspects of myself in a way to help create a better version of myself.

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That part of not having control, is something I can relate to. But there are, as I see it, different aspects of the influences behind the darker side of these entities. Either we accept and embrace it, which gives us some control by choice of progression. Or we don’t and let the fear be an aspect to feed upon.

As I’ve experienced, that darkness won’t last forever. At the beginning, it shifted from dark to divine. Back and forth, up and down, cold and warmth, heavy solidness and feathery buzzings. Nowadays, it’s neither dark or divine, but more balanced to the middle.

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this was a very good interview.

Key Words:
Make Life Better

That part of not having control, is something I can relate to. But there are, as I see it, different aspects of the influences behind the darker side of these entities. Either we accept and embrace it, which gives us some control by choice of progression. Or we don’t and let the fear be an aspect to feed upon.

As I’ve experienced, that darkness won’t last forever. At the beginning, it shifted from dark to divine. Back and forth, up and down, cold and warmth, heavy solidness and feathery buzzings. Nowadays, it’s neither dark or divine, but more balanced to the middle.[/quote]

I agree with you on this brother. It just goes back to knowing and being honest with yourself. Just as we choose to create our own heaven or hell on this Earth, we choose to seek balance within the self and sustain a life worth living. Darkness doesn’t last forever but it can teach us many things about ourselves if we choose to dwell there. I just wanted to say I appreciate the feedback and good luck on your path!!

[quote=“Sawbenah, post:5, topic:5315”]this was a very good interview.

Key Words:
Make Life Better[/quote]

Thanks and I appreciate the positive feedback!!!

These are the words I live by: The only God is you, Do What Thou Wilt and Will Yourself to a Better You.

KA-FKN-BOOOMBAAA !!! I never thought I would hear it in my life [and I gotta quit that shit altogether ] Due to the way I am i sometimes think both sides hate the fk outta me; and for damn good reason. But i can’t help it, there simply comes a time when I AM , and i don’t care if you are some screaming in my face psycho demon, or some majestic ass God said so Angel with a huge ass sword .>“get the hint little person”!<
at some point I have to flip you both off and stand my ass up and say “Fine, fk you and where you came from I am no longer the mindless rope in your tug-o-war- now get the hell outta the AO” !
I can remember actually screaming that in the middle of the road one day- and that was when I began seriously trying to distance myself fromboth sides. It was hard as I was in a position where i at least needed one side to back me abit. So it mostly became a process . i remember about 10 years later watching B-5 and seeing the same thing happen during the ‘Shadow War’ and felt good that somehow, there was something i caught onto and may have been right about.
The bible- far from being a stupid mindless tome, just needs to be skryed better in the right hands has that story of Abram, where YH supposedly told him to take his kid up the mountain and kill him and cook him. And sorry- I am course enough to also know well, he was gonna be dinner also. And time after time the preachers tell you the great viritue of Abram was that he did not flinch, but just went right to it- good ol obediant without a bitch or though Abram ! Gonna make god all happy by serving his son up for chow time! Then the Angel supposedly stopped him. What they do not do is tell what was probably the more accurate version of what the Angel said- "YOU STUPID FFFUKK !!!- Don’t you have nay brains or honor?? WTF is wrong with you???“
i remember all the times ‘god’ told me to do shit; i always felt bad as it turned to shit in my hands and of course the teachings are that if that happens- it is because you screwed up, can’t possibly be because doing what you were told was being screwed up. I remember the opposing forces being pretty nice and saying,don’t do that, but righteously ignoring them.
I am slowly getting over the anger I have had at YH- understanding that in his manifestation as YH-what can be called the Dark Flipside of the entity EA. YH, has no problem guiding you off the cliff in his name- especially if you are mindless and stupid enough to just drool say “Duuh OK boss!” and do it. but, say hell no , stand your ground, “Prove him, and you are likely going to pass through a veil of deception purposefully placed their to keep the idiots out, and then find the Humanity loving and Enlightenment and Power conveying EA aka Enki, and there you will actually be able to look back at the 'You” who was first spoken to, and hardly recognise the 'lower Form”. I spent way too many years bowing to YH- even knowing it was a kamikaze run at best, and thinking that must be the only value I had.
This was a very nice vid by EA- (can’t get over the EA & EA thing ) and very thankful for the tiny crumbs which fall off and answer decades of hard won battles in the dark.

[quote=“Lady Eva, post:1, topic:5315”]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlOxWczu3K8

Awesome! :D[/quote]

Oi. Cj if thou read thus congratulations dude. I was stoked about finding that interview!

Hmm, might not agree with all views of this video - and love being sexually crazed :smiley: … But i hit like anyways, because i like the fact that CJ gave E.A an interview anyways. I always wonder about those drugs… but maybe its not good idea for me because even a relatively big dose of cannabis fucked me pretty bad years ago… (1 joint smoked alone as beginner )

It’s all good, brother. I’m not expecting the things that helped me on my path to help everyone. I’m happy that you didn’t agree with everything I said because this shows me that you have the capability to think for yourself and make up your own mind on things. As we know this quality is hard to come by in people anymore and because of this I wholeheartedly appreciate your honesty.

If you have any questions for me or want me to explain anything I said in depth, feel free to ask me.

I loved the video and finding it motivating and intriguing how C.J. remained positive and cheerful throughout the interview. His upbeat energy resonated well with me.

Personally I never used drugs like that. No offense to recreational users and etc…its not for moral reasons ether. Based on my career choice using any substance other that from a prescription can lead me into a world of problems I would rather avoid. (IOW we get drug tested a lot…life of a Soldier…lol) I have had interesting experiences from exposure to household chemicals (using too much during cleaning I wasn’t trying to get high) Industrial chemicals (long story) and from being choked out during hand to hand training (having a blood choke to near unconsciousness is a trippy experience).

Having said that the video was very inspiring and helpful. I don’t agree with the view of Naamah and Lilith being solely adversarial, however I think its based on point of view and individual experience. In other words, maybe to better help one person ascend scaring the shit out of him and forcing him to confront a major obstacle is more useful vs another person who already proven himself and dealt with enough(from the spirit’s view) would get a more nurturing (but still dark) persona from the spirit. Personally I haven’t soul traveled to that plane yet but I have done several rituals to Lilith and asked for Naamah’s presence out of curiosity twice in the past several months, and had a great experiences. I even blogged about a dream of a mysterious woman named Eisheth mentoring me about many things.

On the flip side I did have many experiences with “scary disturbing entities” that challenged me and tested my courage, gave me tasks that tested my ethics, and decision making abilities (a crude example…shoot or don’t shoot combat scenarios where you have a split second to make a choice). Some of these tests were from those entities that I am familiar with. I take it as a sign of them constantly testing and training us. A spiritual version of tough love to keep us focused on our journey.

I am very excited to learning about path working with Lilith and her fellow consorts. I did preorder the book so I cant wait to read it. I am open to any advice and tips on the subject at hand.

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[quote=“ken757, post:12, topic:5315”]I loved the video and finding it motivating and intriguing how C.J. remained positive and cheerful throughout the interview. His upbeat energy resonated well with me.

Personally I never used drugs like that. No offense to recreational users and etc…its not for moral reasons ether. Based on my career choice using any substance other that from a prescription can lead me into a world of problems I would rather avoid. (IOW we get drug tested a lot…life of a Soldier…lol) I have had interesting experiences from exposure to household chemicals (using too much during cleaning I wasn’t trying to get high) Industrial chemicals (long story) and from being choked out during hand to hand training (having a blood choke to near unconsciousness is a trippy experience).

Having said that the video was very inspiring and helpful. I don’t agree with the view of Naamah and Lilith being solely adversarial, however I think its based on point of view and individual experience. In other words, maybe to better help one person ascend scaring the shit out of him and forcing him to confront a major obstacle is more useful vs another person who already proven himself and dealt with enough(from the spirit’s view) would get a more nurturing (but still dark) persona from the spirit. Personally I haven’t soul traveled to that plane yet but I have done several rituals to Lilith and asked for Naamah’s presence out of curiosity twice in the past several months, and had a great experiences. I even blogged about a dream of a mysterious woman named Eisheth mentoring me about many things.

On the flip side I did have many experiences with “scary disturbing entities” that challenged me and tested my courage, gave me tasks that tested my ethics, and decision making abilities (a crude example…shoot or don’t shoot combat scenarios where you have a split second to make a choice). Some of these tests were from those entities that I am familiar with. I take it as a sign of them constantly testing and training us. A spiritual version of tough love to keep us focused on our journey.

I am very excited to learning about path working with Lilith and her fellow consorts. I did preorder the book so I cant wait to read it. I am open to any advice and tips on the subject at hand.[/quote]

Nice to meet you Ken and thank you for your service. I know how it is being in the service and the consequences are pretty harsh for drug use. I served two years in the Army before getting medically discharged and I certainly wouldn’t want you to do anything that will mess up your career.

There are plenty of ways to gain contact with these spirits and path work with them. Aside from what I wrote in my article (which I might add is a drug free method), I like to make contact with these spirits during lucid dreaming.

If this is something you’re interested in doing I would start off by keeping a dream journal. This will help you to remember your dreams more vividly and help you to gain control over them. Also it would be helpful to remind yourself throughout the day up until you go to sleep something like “I know that I’m dreaming and I will meet Naamah”.

If you do this every day she will eventually visit you. This takes a bit of time and practice but don’t get discouraged. When you have your breakthrough, you’ll probably find yourself repeating this to yourself in your dream which will trigger awareness. Once you become aware, just focus on meeting her. She’ll appear when you do this and the rest I leave up to you. :slight_smile:

She takes on many forms. Sometimes she looks like a beautiful queen and other times she takes the form of a bloodthirsty humanoid creature. Either way it’s worth meeting her.

I hope this helps… Thanks for the support.

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