[quote=“Bran, post:21, topic:512”]No worries, Frater A… You’re not an ass. We’re all here to learn and I’m not above that. I actually enjoy debating with you as I’m always learning. I wouldn’t be surprised if this conversation was Azazel’s doing hah. After all, he and others communicate in a large variety of ways.
I completely agree that Azazel can not give what you already have, such as Power. Indeed, we all have powers “in our pocket”. Yet I need azazel in learning how to use them. It’s like a kid finding a driver’s license in his pocket by surprise. Good for the kid but that doesn’t mean he knows how to drive a car. So yes, I’m with you on this.
Also, I have never seen Azazel as an angel; By all means, he’s anything but an angel. On the other hand though, I don’t experience him to be a demon either. Whenever I evoke him, I feel in the presence of an ancient god; of course, the same goes for a lot of demonised gods. But it is because of this feeling that I have traced him way back into history, back to the Sumerian times where he was worshipped as the god of Justice and Vengeance, and where he was called the Shining One! And you are right by the way, in saying that his description of teaching people how to use make-up, how to make swords etc… is not purely bibilical. Indeed, today I found that the same is to be found in Apocryphal books such as The Book of Enoch.
I’m aware that Sumeria is not the end of the line though. His existence can be traced way further than that but I haven’t been there yet! Some say that Azazel has been around since 80.000 years. But if that’s true, I don’t know.
Just like you I experience Azazel as an incredible teacher, the Perfect Teacher actually. For that reason I made a pact with him. So that he will teach me and keep on teaching me for the remainder of my life. Quite frankly, I don’t think that one lifetime is enough to learn everything he has to teach. I’m not gonna elaborate on what I give him in return.
You are also right about people only talking about what he can give. Yes, in a way Azazel is gentle, flexible and patient. I know this because there has been a time that I didn’t live up to the pact anymore and just did things my way. The heavens didn’t fall on my head though! No punishment, nothing. The downside of this? I didn’t evolve anymore, I stagnated and it turned out that my life all of a sudden wasn’t that pleasant anymore. That was not his doing though. He just took his hands of me and I lacked his protection and guidance.
Upon evoking him again I asked him about this and his answer was simple: “If you don’t live up to the pact, then neither will I. You’re only blocking your own ascent”. He actually came across “fatherly” if you will.
When I say that he can be harsh at times, I mean that he WILL put you to the test and more than once. He will challenge you, he will make you go through fire, he will test your trust in him, he will confront you with yourself, point out your flaws and weaknesses, burn them away if necessary… My biggest flaws that needed to be removed were some addictions such as alcohol. On those occasions he most certainly is not “gentle”! Quite the contrary,… on times where I just wanted to give up, my body all of a sudden started to react against the substances and I became ill. That’s one possible consequence of going against an entity such as Azazel! He’ll make you learn the hard way.
Yes, he will remove illusions from your life! It is he who removed all my christian indoctrinations and dogma’s. It’s with his help that I renounced that Biblical God! And in those matters there was no room for petty or compassion. He’s a great surgeon but he never uses anesthetics. After all, the major part of the work has to be done by yourself; he’s there all the way to help and to assist but you always have to go through the pain of letting things go. And that hurts! I really suffered in those periodes. But he never pampered me! And there are more to come!
I’m not going to be as arrogant in saying that I know Azazel through and through. No way! Like you say, there are so many mysteries surrounding him that most likely, most of the mysteries will remain unsolved. But is that necessary?
Anyways, yes, your post relates to my gnosis and workings with Azazel! That’s why I enjoy this conversation. Thank you. You have all my respect, brother!
P.S. I never found an answer to this question: I never looked for Azazel, it was he who came to me. He never answered me when I asked him why he came into my life. Maybe you have an idea, 'cause he won’t tell me.
There is this quite voice inside me telling me that Azazel has always been with me (that would explain a lot) and that he didn’t “come” into my life but merely revealed himself that day. But I’m having troubles believing this.[/quote]
Thank you for your post, I really appreciate everything you had to tell me.
Azazel has been telling me for the last year+ to ditch my woman, and well, I didn’t, and suffered horribly, and learned a lot about why I brought such a harmful person in my life, and why I never wanted to do it again.
In that sense, Azazel reveals the child within.
However, if I had not told him to let her stay, she would not have.
The reason this woman destroyed my life entirely was because I asked spirit to make her stay, and I kept asking Azazel to stop trying to move her out of my life. This pissed him off, and literally made our workings very stagnant for a long time, and left me with serious consequences in my own life, that were really sad which Azazel tried to impress on me would happen. I was content to be a “good” moral person of “character” and play through the act this way.
Big fucking mistake.
Azazel showed me what I didn’t want to learn, that having these kind of morals, really only allowed someone to take advantage of me as a person, and exploit it as weakness. I got to see that all the pain, sadness, and everything I endured, was for nothing other than my own stupidity…And besides having the pieces of the life I had built for myself burning in the fire as a monument to my own stupidity, I have nothing…Except perhaps the revelation that I am a god, this person interfered with that, and perhaps because Azazel made me see this, I have felt incredibly emotionally detached about this, for loosing someone that lived in my house, I really have felt more depressed about loosing online relationships that were more important to my happiness.
Sometimes I feel like it’s just better to give spirit what they ask for, no matter how hard it seems, because what they are trying to save you from, is a creation of your own devices, that’s far worse than anything they could give you.
Sure it’s hard, but that’s my journey with black magick entirely.
And if I was to rate him vs most demons, I’d say I feel really comfortable making a pact with him.
As for your past life experience, I would like to go more in depth on my own, because you’re not the first person to say this, but the nature of your experience, and that of other’s I know who’ve engaged in pacts with Azazel, is that you have past life connection with him also. If I can explain, I don’t know if I can do it any other way than to draw on gnosis, because otherwise this is hard to explain and be believed, it’s challenging to me on some level
During a time when I Was 16-18 I was going through an insane period of personal artistry in how I would sketch and draw. During this period I’d try and open my third eye and draw random sacred symbols, and many that I have now seen through the BOA flashed through my mind many times. I am well aware this is not my first time with Azazel, however he was very content, along with many spirits, to sort of “witness” the path workings I had begun as a child.
When I was about 16, I believe that was when I first got my admission to an incredibly crazy group of batshit insane hardcore LHP magicians.
During this time, the guy leading the community, gave me a SHIT LOAD of crazy rituals and tools, the first of which I was able to call non other than the Egyptian God Set, and even though none of my senses were open, I still felt his presence, and I trembled so fierce around his presence when he came, I spilled my offering of wine on myself. I thought this was an incredibly dark being, but I have come to know him as a dark god of illumination, who always urged one to question and to discern the truth of what was happening.
This isn’t the first place, where I’ve seen a powerful group of spirits, take a group of magicians whom all had past life workings, and brought them together for a higher purpose.
If you’re seeing this now, it means spirit has “plans” for you, and something pretty fucking big is going to happen. This is more than an individual test, but tests of strength, intelligence, cunning, and such, basically that you be tested to see whether or not if you have the strength of character and ability needed to do what you’re asking for. These are directly related to spirit, and your group. There are going to be a manner of tests, it will not be one, this will become a group path working for you as gods, and it won’t stop as long as you’re here and willing to do what is required.
Set was a god who was very powerful, and perhaps forced the very forces of chaos to materialize his will and desires. He would literally send us powerful magicians to benefit us, and the events of several of the inner circle’s arrival were prophesied, and I can say that as someone who thought he accidentally stepped into that. But it was clear spirit brought me there too, to help me realize my true purpose upon this planet.
It became clear, that most of the magicians on that site, were people I already had past life workings with, and could call me out on it too, and they would have powerful revelations of past life memories, and they would be made to remember why they had came, that there was a binding purpose, and that we were in fact, family of the truest nature.
We had lived together before, many times, practiced magick, spilled blood, sweat, and tears together. Not once, but many times.
We began to remember who we were, and why we were here.
However, spirit will set in motion some crazy circumstances around your life path, that are crucial to your purpose, who you want to be, and establishing your rightful place as god, not only within, but of the world. Spirits are going to test your ability to do this as a group, and if you can be gods on earth, judging by the nature of Azazel at least, I think that’s what’s in store for you.
I will try to post or pm you details about the video soon, but I just wanted to make this post to you for posterity first.
The chosen are few, but the wand bearers many.
Good Luck and Godspeed,