I enjoy the discussions here very much but after several weeks of reading and lurking here and on Face Book Forums I have come to the conclusion that I am a really strange bird compared to most LHP practitioners. I probably would appear to most of you as more of a RHP person. My alter is not dimly lit. I do use subdued lighting during rituals but only because I am trying to incorporate more deep guided meditation prior to the rituals and bright light dies not work so well for that.
I wear a suit and tie to work daily. There is no dark occult feeling in my home. In fact, there is more of a down home conservative comfortable family vibe in my home. Politically I am a conservative (capital âLâ) Libertarian. Most assume I am GOP but Iâm not. My lifelong Asian Buddhist wife is though.
I will still go to Christian Churches with my sister and her family on some holidays as a visitor of course but not one seeking confrontation. I was raised in that same church so I âblendâ. I left that church but not because I was upset or anything. It simply was not for me. I bare no ill-will or malice towards them. I also help the monks at the local Buddhist temple where my wife goes. They are likable people and I like to help them out when I can. And of course that buys me points with the wife and her friends who all originated from her home country. Happy wife - happy life as they say.
I donate time and money to charities when I feel motivated. I love animals (dogs and cats differently but equally).
If you saw me in public you would never assume that I wear a simple Belial pendant under my shirt and I would probably not stand out in any way compared to the other ârun of the millâ pedestrians on the street.
In my rituals I have never sought to do anyone harm. Thatâs just not me. Itâs not so much that I fear a karmic payback but I simply do not dislike people enough to want to harm them. The closest I have come is to ask Belial for protection from someone. The fact is, I like more people than I dislike. I like Christians. I like Buddhists. I like Catholics. I like Atheists. Most people are likable even if a little annoying at times.
In almost all of these ways - I feel a bit odd in the LHP community. Am I mistaken? I hope that I am. I fear that I am not.
This forum isnât only for the LHP and LHP doesnât mean just the cliche âhate, destruction and deathâ.
Most of us wonât kill every single person on sight. In fact I know that most wonât go that way unless they feel itâs necessary. And yes, even Demonolators have baneful rituals.
Several have no hate towards Christians, Buddhists etc.
Most of us like animals and we donât want/like to kill them and some are into charities.
Also many of us donât walk around with a ceremonial hood and our houses donât look like catacombs (and yes I know many that it is their own choice).
Some are still going to church, even though it might not be with their own will.
Long story short, you do you and donât worry if youâre not the same with someone else. Think that some are also pretending and overact just so they âfitâ with the others or with what they imagine as âbad ass LHP magicianâ.
LHP or RHP it dosnt actually matter! I am a human after all! I do what I want because I am a goddess on my own right! Wanna lable me go ahead! I walk my own path! And itâs a swirling up down up down up down path! sorry am too much sometimesâŚ
Iâm glad to hear all of that. I was beginning to think I might have gotten on the LHP for the wrong reasons. Everyone has a right to be who they want to be. I also realize that some of the âdarkerâ personalities SEEM to have chosen the LHP because whatever religion they were raised in by their parents (or even their parents themselves) caused some sort of harm to them and there are scars. We all know that does in fact happen. If we donât - we do not watch TV news. I have known quite a few RHP people (mostly Wiccans or LeVey brand Satanists) who left their Christian roots behind for this same reason. Not questioning their reasons. They are entitled to it and if their choice made them happy or better able to cope with their past experiences - I salute them for taking those steps.
I see a lot of these people here and on other forums and was beginning to think there was no place for me on the LHP since I didnât share that common background. Donât get me wrong - I was disappointed in my Judeo-Christian experience which at one point in my life I was truly committed too. I was not âdamagedâ by it - merely disappointed. Iâm still a huge fan of Jesus Christ. I am not angry at his Dad - but we havenât spoken in a while and I gave him a chance to communicate a desire to repair or relationship. He never âcalled backâ. So there is not hatred for him or Christianity on my part. I donât even dislike them. We just do not have much of a relationship anymore. I tried Angel magick for a while and I had some amount of success. But seriously, Angels need a lot of âŚwellâŚto be bluntâŚass kissing to get them to do something. Wow! Itâs actually exhausting sometimes. It took me a while to give in to the temptation and ânudgingsâ from friendly LHP people to give LHP a try. I must admit. Demons want respect and they are entitled to it. But they never seem to require actual âass kissingâ and begging to convince them to help out. LOL LHP is far more practical in many ways. You can definitely be yourself with a demon without fear of judgement.
I have to say that is not very accurate in my experience. I work with both angels and demons all the time and command them both in the same way. I have never had to kiss an ass in my life lol
Iâm not sure what you mean by ass-kissing. I worked with angels a lot, even for baneful works at times (I had a just cause). Never had to kiss their ass. I think one needs to be mindful of their purpose, their remit, and their abilities. If I was trying to attack someone just because I was being mean, these angels would remind me of who I am. If I need to attack or defend for a just cause, theyâll carry out the task immediately. For workings that were beneficial in nature, Iâve never had to kiss their ass at all. Theyâve always been willing to help if they could. Perhaps the idea you need to kiss their ass comes from your religious background? Just a thought.
Well when I said that I was referring more to the âGallery of Magickâ method wherein you have to do the same ritual every single day for 11 days (nag the poor angel to death) before you hope to see a result. According to them - this is how to get effective results from an angel. Whereas with demons it is more like:
Me: Light the candles. Chant an enn for a few minutes. âHey BelialâŚyou awake?â
Belial: "Yep. Here I am.
Me: âI have a problem - you up for helping a brother out?â
Belial: âSure, Iâm in.â
Me: âThanks. I really owe you for this.â
Belial: âCoolâ
End of ritual. Do not rinse. Do not repeat. He said he will help so now we wait for it.
This is not weird. Just donât put a label on yourself, after all we all are humans, and our life is full of white, black, grey and colors I am most interested in angel magic, but i donât like church, and i love satanic metal I feel great sympathy for paganism. What is weird that first metal song I heard was christian XD literaly death metal lordâs prayer Still like it.
Thatâs because with GoM methods you are using talismans, not actually evoking the angels directly. The talisman method is easier than evocation and doesnât require trance or developed senses, which is why it is geared heavily towards beginners. As to whether or not this is how you get effective results from an angel, I know that some magicians work under the assumption that one cannot evoke angels (the reasoning as for why this is so varies from âwe arenât capable of it,â all the way to âits just plain rude to summon Godâs messengers to do your biddingâ). In the point of view of these type of magicians, only demons can be summoned because they are seen as somehow lesser than angels and closer to the Earth.
In my opinion, I think it is a bit silly to say angels require more ass kissing in order to work with them simply because of one particular methodology. That is the equivalent of saying demons have to be constrained in a triangle simply because that is how it is done in the tradition of Solomon. This entire forum shows that is definitely not the case.
Thereâs an old saying in the UK my grandparents used to use (predates the change of meaning of the word âqueerâ): âEverybodyâs a bit queer, save thee anâ me⌠anâ even theeâs a bit queer!â
Meaning âyeah that Sally sheâs weird - sheâs alright thoughâ. Everybody is different, and everybody has something strange going on, that they might not want to share with others for fear of being socially rejected. Kind of nice to not get on their case about it or tell them to be different really - and I like to think we donât do that here.
I donât think you need to worry about that though when youâre only comparing yourself to an amalgam you invented based on relatively little data. Case in point, by your reckoning. I donât âfitâ any more than you do, just because I came via non-LHP modalities, Iâm also older, middle class and I wear suits to work where I deal with fortune 500 (or 100) clients for a living⌠Does it matter? Not in any way I noticed. I fit in the ways that do matter, or I wouldnât have stayed.
I think the main question to answer is whether you feel you benefit being here, and if you do, take that and donât worry about the rest.
You sound like me to an extent in the sense that youâd never be able to look at me and think that I would ever go anywhere near the darker side of magic. Iâm not as fancy as you though. No suit and tie. My style and taste is kind of âbasic white girl on Instagramâ really.
sorry am too much sometimesâŚ
I am most interested in angel magic, but i donât like church, and i love satanic metal 
I feel great sympathy for paganism. What is weird that first metal song I heard was christian XD literaly death metal lordâs prayer 