[quote=“Enlightener_Illuminator, post:1, topic:3081”]I’m sure you’ve all seen that statue or painting of Archangel Michael stabbing what is supposedly the Devil. There is also that image of the Virgin Mary crushing down a serpent’s head. Many mages work with Angels but also with Goetics, Demons and so on all at the same time.
So, they can all cohabit? No conflicting energies?[/quote]
Years ago, I met someone whom evoked the demonic king Bael, every day in a row, for well over a year. This was one of the many feats this individual had amassed, along with thousands of evocations, and he had all kinds of strange powers and understandings. The things I have seen him do on the astral, have never been repeated by any sorcerer I have ever seen, or even heard of for that matter. He was gifted at evoking spirits that most people didn’t know existed, and sometimes, he could call out to any power, and had incredible amounts of control over these things. Some of the most bizarre shit I have ever seen and demonic entities most sorcerers would deny the existence of as a joke or a secret. I asked a lot of questions of him on evocation. This was once my partner in a lot of activities, and he was a truly scary mother fucker who really knew his shit. And he frequently gave me answers which confused me at first, but provided a lot of depth on the subject for years to follow.
A lot of his depth was really lost on me at the time, however, he was still a powerful teacher for the short time I knew him.
This individual taught me many things, and started me out with the concept that a circle was complete bullshit and useless right off the bat, and that he had never used one, this is a claim I can verify and duplicate despite the ire of a lot of magicians.
This subject was one on evocation we talked about, and he gave me something really powerful I didn’t understand, that I have finally been able to make sense of.
I asked him if his intense workings with demons ever prohibited him from working with angels. At first he laughed at me slightly, but when he saw I was confused, he quickly got serious and said “you know, you’d think that, but in my experience I’ve seen they simply couldn’t care what else you’re working with more than 90% of the time, with few exceptions”.
There was a pause, and then…
This individual said to me, and I quote.
“Angels and demons are like two sides of the same coin”.
And now I understand exactly what he means, these are just spirits, that have so much in common with each other, and the only reason we even think they are at war, is because religion has made up a bunch of bullshit, that really limits the angelic and demonic paradigm from being useful anywhere near it’s true potential.
If you want to understand an angel, you have to get really deep, and go far beyond any paradigm that humanity has yet to create for such an entity.
Trust me on this, humans got it all wrong and fucked it up, if you want to understand this, that’s the first thing you have to accept, and throw everything out the window they’ve told you. You will only learn this by working with angels and demons yourself.
Gaining substantial gnosis is the only thing that will illuminate this understanding for you, for I fear no book will teach you what you wish to know.
Good Luck and Godspeed,