Anti-Aging: Techniques that have actually worked/ Visible Results

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(I’ve posted this here as this concerns vanity/appearance more than health, so hopefully that’s OK)

Anyway, so I’m currently taking a break from some really intense meditations regarding very deep questions, and thought this might be a good time to discuss a topic which is very mundane and ‘wordly’- the issue of… wrinkles :frowning:

I realise this may seem really superficial, but whatever, I’m vain as fuck and looking good matters to me. So the thing is, I’m in the last year of my twenties now and much to my horror, I have started noticing more and more fine lines appearing all over my face. OK, I’m not exactly a wrinkled old bag, and my partner and friends tell me they don’t notice them- but I do and it bugs me! So, yeah, I’ve decided I’m not having it, and was hoping someone on here might know of a technique, spell, whatever that actually WORKS (as in having the lines disappear, or at least just becoming a lot less noticeable).

I’ve used the search function and found a thread regarding something called The Fountain of Youth. It seems like these are yoga type exercises which as the name would suggest, is supposed to restore youthfulness. It seems like it is more aimed at general wellbeing and vitality though, and I’m looking for something that specifically targets lines and other signs of skin aging, such as widened pores, uneven skin texture and all that pesky shit (yeah, I realise this is probably more of a female issue, and hopefully I won’t be accused of making this balg too ‘feminine’ :stuck_out_tongue: ).

I also read about someone on here (forgot who it was) who recently called on the archangel Anael/Hanael for help with money matters, and as a bonus had their grey hair revert back to normal. So I was thinking of possibly approaching Hanael, or maybe the Olympian spirit of Venus- Hagith? But tbh, I sort of feel that calling on a spirit for something to superficial might seem a bit disrespectful to them, so if there’s a way I could do it myself, that would be preferable.

So if anyone knows of anything that might be relevant, please let me know, would be much appreciated! :slight_smile:

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Fountain of Youth= Five Tibetans. I got the book. Read reviews on amazon of peoples hair turning back from grey and such. I would suggest those.

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On a magickal note, the best thing is probably to converse with your body (yes, it can be done, though your internal organs don’t like it if you bug them too often) about any nutritional needs you’re not meeting, anything they find a strain, and so on. My liver asked me to stop eating crisps (chips) that had been fried in veg oil, I already mainly avoid that stuff but that was about the only time I would eat it, so that was useful to know.

Honestly I know this sounds crazy but it’s perfectly possible - if you can soul travel and/or converse with the spirits of objects, you can converse with your own body, and this is much easier since they’re part of YOU. :slight_smile:

I don’t personally recommend evocation for this, as in, making them project an appearance/presence outside your own body, just because that’s a bit of a strain, but you can visualise yourself shrinking then walking round inside yourself (like a large version of the Statue of Liberty with you walking inside her), visualise each organ, and converse that way.

Other than that, plenty of water, plenty of veg, gelatin/collagen if you eat animal products, and plenty of sleep as well. I use Frownies and I think you can get those everwhere, they prevent the 11 lines on your forehead, and needling/dermarolling is becoming more popular, I might try that myself next year. But those aren’t magickal, except insofar as doing divination or whatever on what’s most effective for you!

I also use the best moisturisers and serums I can afford, times when I’ve been ill and stopped using them I did notice the difference, and IMO people who say they don’t work are probably rationalising their own laziness (some people have a weird grudge against people who care for themselves) or maybe they just used one that didn’t agree with their skin or something…

Make sure your hair colour is flattering as well, that can drain the hell out of you if it’s the wrong tone or something, and don’t wear “grownup” fabrics like tweed, velvet, or anything sparkly like lamé or sequins near your face - those age you, in a way denim, canvas, leather, and other “edgier” fabrics with rougher or distressed effects don’t.

Pearls on the other hand are like a personal soft-filter and suit almost everyone, for different skin tones you might want bright white, softer ivory, or pale pinks and blues, and the more skin you show (shoulders, arms, etc), generally, the younger people will believe you to be.

Oh and do face exercises, lookup Eva Fraser on YouTube, she looks simply stunning for her age, they really do work.

Make sure to straighten your knees properly when you walk, not doing that is a surefire way to look defeated and old, check that your method of walking is always dynamically forwards and not that slightly side-to-side shuffle you see on older people, and acquire good posture, there are lots of methods and trainers, or just watch how you stand and sit and monitor it yourself.

The youngest seeming (older) people I know have a nice bright, open, positive manner, they haven’t tried to compensate for age by becoming know it all or a cynic, and sooner or later your personality will show in your face, so that’s another thing to bear in mind.

But again, all not really magick per se, though apparently we have Azazel to thank for the use of cosmetics… :slight_smile:

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@Globalitz- have you tried any of the exercises yourself? Did you notice any changes?

@Lady Eva- thank you so much for all the fab tips!! I’m going to type up a longer reply tomorrow, I’m struggling to keep my eyes open atm (gotta get that beauty sleep lol) :slight_smile:

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[quote=“Akasha, post:4, topic:6798”]@Globalitz- have you tried any of the exercises yourself? Did you notice any changes?

@Lady Eva- thank you so much for all the fab tips!! I’m going to type up a longer reply tomorrow, I’m struggling to keep my eyes open atm (gotta get that beauty sleep lol) :)[/quote]

I’ve done them but never long enough. I would suggest u do them once or twice a day for 3 months, or for the rest of your life would be good. I have read so many testimonials, they also have a cleansing function.

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[quote=“Lady Eva, post:3, topic:6798”]On a magickal note, the best thing is probably to converse with your body (yes, it can be done, though your internal organs don’t like it if you bug them too often) about any nutritional needs you’re not meeting, anything they find a strain, and so on. My liver asked me to stop eating crisps (chips) that had been fried in veg oil, I already mainly avoid that stuff but that was about the only time I would eat it, so that was useful to know.

Honestly I know this sounds crazy but it’s perfectly possible - if you can soul travel and/or converse with the spirits of objects, you can converse with your own body, and this is much easier since they’re part of YOU. :slight_smile:

I don’t personally recommend evocation for this, as in, making them project an appearance/presence outside your own body, just because that’s a bit of a strain, but you can visualise yourself shrinking then walking round inside yourself (like a large version of the Statue of Liberty with you walking inside her), visualise each organ, and converse that way.

Other than that, plenty of water, plenty of veg, gelatin/collagen if you eat animal products, and plenty of sleep as well. I use Frownies and I think you can get those everwhere, they prevent the 11 lines on your forehead, and needling/dermarolling is becoming more popular, I might try that myself next year. But those aren’t magickal, except insofar as doing divination or whatever on what’s most effective for you!

I also use the best moisturisers and serums I can afford, times when I’ve been ill and stopped using them I did notice the difference, and IMO people who say they don’t work are probably rationalising their own laziness (some people have a weird grudge against people who care for themselves) or maybe they just used one that didn’t agree with their skin or something…

Make sure your hair colour is flattering as well, that can drain the hell out of you if it’s the wrong tone or something, and don’t wear “grownup” fabrics like tweed, velvet, or anything sparkly like lamé or sequins near your face - those age you, in a way denim, canvas, leather, and other “edgier” fabrics with rougher or distressed effects don’t.

Pearls on the other hand are like a personal soft-filter and suit almost everyone, for different skin tones you might want bright white, softer ivory, or pale pinks and blues, and the more skin you show (shoulders, arms, etc), generally, the younger people will believe you to be.

Oh and do face exercises, lookup Eva Fraser on YouTube, she looks simply stunning for her age, they really do work.

Make sure to straighten your knees properly when you walk, not doing that is a surefire way to look defeated and old, check that your method of walking is always dynamically forwards and not that slightly side-to-side shuffle you see on older people, and acquire good posture, there are lots of methods and trainers, or just watch how you stand and sit and monitor it yourself.

The youngest seeming (older) people I know have a nice bright, open, positive manner, they haven’t tried to compensate for age by becoming know it all or a cynic, and sooner or later your personality will show in your face, so that’s another thing to bear in mind.

But again, all not really magick per se, though apparently we have Azazel to thank for the use of cosmetics… :)[/quote]

Face exercises are good, I did them back in my teens. Also oil pulling works face muscles. I take collegen and use a variety of face creams/oils. I use Andalou Naturals , a great brand if you wanna try it, as well as organic vitamin C serum.

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[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html]How drinking three litres of water a day took ten years off my face | Daily Mail Online check this link also. Drink lots of water! I would also try to limit sugar as much as possible, including most fruits cept blueberries/blackberries/strawberries/cranberries/lemons. Also I would start drinking green/black/white tea and doing semi fasting, not eating after five,ect. Lot’s of good fats from avocados and olive/coconut oil( you can put these on your skin also).

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I’m on a small e-mail group where we discuss health and beauty as well as diet, and we’ve been trialling using natural fats like lard, tallow, chicken fat, and of course and coconut oil for skincare: lard mixed with about 25% coconut oil is my go-to right now for an overnight hair, scalp and face treatment and it’s really made a difference. Other people like tallow more for this, and some use a drop of essential oil in the mixes.

My scalp used to sometimes get overly oily and then flakey, and doing this over the last 6 months, about once a week, has really balanced it out a treat.

I smother my face, scalp and hair in it, wipe it off my face just before bed leaving a thin layer (obviously wash your pillowcase next morning!) and wrap my hair in clingfilm, then use a drop of apple cider vinegar in my shampoo next morning.

The rest of that stuff I’ve accumulated over the years, through observation and asking other people what their secret is, and I regularly get asked for ID at places that do “over 21 only” so I’m apparently doing something right! :slight_smile:

Totally agree about limiting sugar, I watched a documentary where people who appeared the oldest using light-based scanning tech on their faces, had higher blood sugar overall, and anyway I eat low-ish carb, sort of primal/paleo combination with about 50g - 100g a day, which seems to suit me.

ETA: I can’t find it now but I read a study a while ago that men made the most accurate guesses about a woman’s age by looking at the hair at the back of her head - so I started noticing this with other women, and it seems legit, things that makeup and good posture hide from other angles show up back there, like thinning hair, dullness, general neglect.

So, pay attention and get a mirror set-up that lets you see the back of your head, and check there’s nothing about that you’re missing out on! Honestly some females seem to just give up somewhere in their 30’s, and I guess that’s one of the first areas they neglect or whatever…

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Lady Eva, so much great information in your post, I’ll try not to be redundant.

Before I transitioned to Large Animal Massage Therapy & Body work, I was an Esthetician (Skin Care Specialist). Technically, I still am licensed, but only work on a few select clients. Coming from a purely carnal aspect, what ages people most is lifestyle:
-Sunshine
-Smoking
-Dehydration
-Poor Nutrition
-Poor Skin Care Regimen

I am about to turn 40. People tell me on a daily basis that I look like I am in my early to mid 20’s. I’ve been obsessively diligent with caring for my skin. After all, it was my best advertisement for myself. So Akasha, Lady Eva’s advice was perfect!

Make sure to stay hydrated. Use sunscreen every day if you go outside, even when it’s cloudy (clouds don’t stop UV rays). Vices that poison your body should be kept to a minimum as your skin, the largest organ of your body, will be noticeably affected. What you put into yourself shows on the outside. Particularly when it comes to smoking. Smoking literally suffocates your skin and will age you as fast, if not faster, than the sun.

Last but certainly not least, invest in good quality skin care. I recommend seeing an Esthetician to get clinical skin care products. Most drug store skin care lines don’t have a high enough percentage of active ingredients to make much of a difference.

Hope that helps! Best of luck in your vanity journey. :wink:

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Old urine.

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there’s also what I’ll call “bathing under the moon”. If you haven’t tried or even heard about it, it’s a ceremony where you bath during a clear bright night sky when the moon is visible. It’s just the same as the salt bath. Try and feel the light that will cover your body.

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Look into the book “Internal Alchemy” by Taylor Ellwood. It is all about using your body in magick, and has meditations and techniques that can be used to communicate with your body. He details how he evoked his neurotransmitters as spirits to increase certain effects and negate others, as well as to change the colour of his hair.

I also recommend the 5 Tibetans or Qi Gong to increase the overall vitality of your energetic system. Chi washing is also very helpful for beautiful skin as it brings blood and chi to the surface which gives your skin a youthful glow.

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Woah- Didn’t expect so many replies in such a short space of time! Clearly many others share my concerns. Thank you so much everyone for all your advice- this is great! :slight_smile:

I think the take home message for me is- start bloody taking your care of your skin dammit!! Thing is with me, Ive always had naturally good skin, and I’ve always looked younger than my age, so up until very recently (I’m ashamed to say) I have not really bothered with skincare routines etc. I always thought, ‘Oh that’s something I don’t have to worry about for ages still’. I’ve always been really into makeup, and my makeup skills are pretty damn on point, but it’s the looking after myself bit that I’ve neglected.

It was literally only a few months ago, on one unusually sunny day in London, that I was looking at my little hand mirror to check my makeup, and suddenly I was like ‘wait- where the hell did those lines come from!?’. I know that, objectively, I’m overreacting as everyone else seems to think I’m being ridiculous and I still get ID’d quite often as well, but I’ve got an obsessive personality and all these things don’t seem to reassure me because when I look in the mirror I’m still bothered by what I see. Also, having a LHP mentality, even if these are ‘normal’, I’m not going to accept it if I don’t have to.

So yeah, I wish I could go back in time and shake my smug/arrogant old self and be like ‘come on, start doing something about this NOW’. But better late than never I guess. I’m going to look into all the things you guys suggested, and come up with a proper routine. Also, I think it’s time I started exercising again and eating better- I’ve really been lazy with that sort of thing this year, and I agree that diet etc are massively important for general wellbeing.

It’s very encouraging to hear that these things have been working for you guys! :slight_smile:

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There’s another way of accelerated change using a method of draining. In this method, you’ll use a warm salt solution. It would be best if there’s a natural hotspring. You’ll just need to bath or soak yourself until your skin shrinks and wrinkles. That drains the liquids with toxins through accelerated perspiration. And, you shall always have the good diet, preferably good for the skin, and enough water or citrus juice if it suites you to replenish what you have drained.

After having completed the time required for all your skin cells to renew, shall you you have what you desire. Ofcourse, with the right effort, that you have taken the right foods.

P.S. A lady is more attractive when skin is natural. Enough is the white powder, too much if you make your face like a coloring book!!

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[quote=“DarkestKnight, post:12, topic:6798”]Look into the book “Internal Alchemy” by Taylor Ellwood. It is all about using your body in magick, and has meditations and techniques that can be used to communicate with your body. He details how he evoked his neurotransmitters as spirits to increase certain effects and negate others, as well as to change the colour of his hair.

I also recommend the 5 Tibetans or Qi Gong to increase the overall vitality of your energetic system. Chi washing is also very helpful for beautiful skin as it brings blood and chi to the surface which gives your skin a youthful glow.[/quote]

Taylor is a she. Which Qi Gong book do you suggest?

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[quote=“Globalitz, post:15, topic:6798”][quote=“DarkestKnight, post:12, topic:6798”]Look into the book “Internal Alchemy” by Taylor Ellwood. It is all about using your body in magick, and has meditations and techniques that can be used to communicate with your body. He details how he evoked his neurotransmitters as spirits to increase certain effects and negate others, as well as to change the colour of his hair.

I also recommend the 5 Tibetans or Qi Gong to increase the overall vitality of your energetic system. Chi washing is also very helpful for beautiful skin as it brings blood and chi to the surface which gives your skin a youthful glow.[/quote]

Taylor is a she. Which Qi Gong book do you suggest?[/quote]

Um…not according to the interviews I’ve seen, his biography, or his books (in Internal Alchemy he describes using his semen in magick).

As for Qi Gong, there are many books to choose from but I would suggest anything that describes the Eight Pieces of Brocade (also known as the Precious Eight). These are some of the easiest exercises you can learn. “The Power of Chi,” by Geoffrey Pike, “Qigong Teachings of a Taoist Immortal,” by Stuart Olsen and “Qi Gong for Total Wellness,” by Baolin Wu are great choices. The photos and text are very easy to follow.

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Lol guilty as charged! :wink: I love heavy makeup, but yeah if you don’t know what you’re doing it can end up looking like a colouring book lol. To each his own I guess. Thanks for the draining method- will look into that.

I just thought to add something else actually- this is advice that I believe was given to me by Goddess Isis. I’m in the habit of regularly giving her incense offerings, and I’ve found that often when I’m doing so, I’ll have ideas and concepts just pop into my head, sometimes as an answer to a question and sometimes without even having to ask.

The way I’m going to explain this is probably going to sound s a bit airy-fairy (think picture of clouds with some sort of motivational saying plastered over it), but that is NOT the way it was meant. It’s hard to put into words as I just intuitively understood the concept, and no actual words were used to convey this to me, but I guess I can summarize the advice as: ‘To be truly happy you need to be true to your essence at all times’. I’ve been trying to internalize this, and I must say it has been helping me a great deal in accepting the fact that I’ll be thirty soon.

I try to follow this advice every day, and it really does help. As an everyday example, as stated above, I love really full-on makeup and I always feel more ‘me’ when I’m dolled up. I’s not just because it hides imperfections, but I just like the fact that it looks more dramatic and I like the attention I get from it. So I’ll make the effort to do my makeup even if it’s daytime or I’m just meeting friends or just popping out for a bit. Or say I’m just going to the shops, and I’m tempted to through on some old hoodie and my Ugg boots- I’ll stop myself and think ‘nope, put on your nicer boots and leather jacket’, because again, I feel more ‘me’ when I’m dressed like that. I know these are just silly little examples, but the concept obv goes a lot deeper than that- it’s about embracing who you are and not giving a fuck what society says you should do/be, at any given age.

You don’t have to live your life according to society’s timeline, basically. And, if you do normal things like get married, have babies etc, it doesn’t mean that you have to give up on your dreams and change who you are as a person.

Anyway, the reason I’m typing all this is because when on a separate occasion I asked Isis about the whole issue of physical aging- the answer was again that I ‘should continue being myself’. I think this is relevant because if you look at women (and men) who are out there just doing their own thing, not letting ‘age’ get in the way, well they genuinely look younger. This is the case with so many of my personal role models, like other female metal musicians etc. An example off the top of my head is Carla Harvey from a band called the Butcher Babies- she’s around 40 now, but she looks like she’s in her 20’s!

Anyway I’ll stop babbling on about this now… But hopefully it makes sense on some level.

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I completely agree, some people just give up on themselves and it shows, other people are basically living in their own dreamworld and have a young fresh manner no matter their age! :slight_smile:

And yeah, men always come out with that stuff about not liking makeup, but my experience and that of every other female I’ve ever talked to, young or old, black or white, pretty or plain, shows that they don’t know what they really want (bless 'em!) so I ignore it.

Hey on a more serious note I heard about a beauty product based on natural ingredients that were allegedly used by the ancient Egyptians, you mentioning Isis reminded me so I’ll post the details, in case anyone’s interested: [url=http://egyptianmagic.com/]http://egyptianmagic.com/[/url]

It has a wonderfully weird back-story (link), and the jar reminds me of the book New Avatar Power! :slight_smile:

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I read something about breathing properly for youthfulness.

If you watch young kids breathe, they supposedly pull the breath all the way down to their solar plexus. As you get older, the “bottom” of your in breath get higher and higher.

By purposely pulling the breath in lower, it’s supposed to better for you.
Haven’t tried it though.

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I think a lot of guys don’t realise there’s a big difference between ‘natural look’ makeup and ‘no makeup’ lol. It’s like when you see all these models on fb posting pics of themselves with the caption ‘natural look’, yet they’re still wearing a ton of makeup it’s just neutral colours so it’s not as obvious.

I’m actually quite tempted to get that Egyptian cream, especially since it’s all natural products. I see they sell it at Wholefoods- might pop in next time I’m near one.