18+ The path from a slave of lust to a master of the mind! #1

[lustgirl]

@Asher

purely on visualisation

YES!!! When I read it, it sometimes seemed to me that all the “magic” was based on imagination…
I’ve noticed that different people have different dominant sensations. For example, I don’t know why, but I find it easiest to work with and feel the energy in my body. I focus my attention on the sensations in my body and can feel changes during the process, but when it comes to sounds, I feel absolutely nothing. Mantras, 4Hz brainwaves, and the like don’t give me anything. Or there are people for whom visualization is very difficult. They can’t imagine anything.

I can feel “energy” in different parts of my body, clairsentience is the most developed in me, and I am also comfortable working with breathing, since I direct my attention to the sensations in the body when breathing.
Fun fact: since I started practicing magic more seriously, I’ve been experiencing orgasms in the MRI machine. While in there, I feel like I can feel all these magnetic waves through my entire nervous system, and it’s incredibly difficult to resist an orgasm.
This had never happened before, but it started after calling Naama and now I orgasm in the MRI every time.

[lustgirl]

@Asher

One of the instructions in that practice is to inhale and hold the breath for one minute, then exhale and hold it out for one minute, but I’ve held it for only 15 or 20 seconds and it works just as well. There’s some rhp style philosophy in it, but you can safely ignore that - I did.

I once read on a Russian forum about a girl who taught yoga and achieved orgasms using breathing. It seemed like kundalini activation. It wasn’t just her, but almost all of her clients. There was a lot of emphasis on breathing and holding.

[Asher]

The visualisation becomes reality after a while, but it takes time and practice.

I found that with the more Buddhist style meditations, like focusing on the breath or observing thoughts, that they made me more sexually aroused.

I found out later that the reason for that is that those meditations open up the energy channels in a more holistic way, instead of just focusing on the spinal cord. Like, they open up the channels in the legs and hips first, which causes sexual arousal. Then that feeling stops when the channels higher up the body start to open.

[lustgirl]

@lustgirl

So I’ll probably create some kind of affirmation, the text of which will be the same words I would use in case of an attack. In a sense, I’ll be practicing my actions in such a situation every day.

I thought it could also be used as a banishing ritual. I fill my words with anger and intent, demonstrating authority and commanding the spirit to leave. I want to feel my words not just reach the spirit, but my anger strike it, so that it feels my words.
I think it might work as a banishing ritual against parasites that supposedly increase my sexual desire and lust.

[Mulberry]

@lustgirl

I fill my words with anger and intent

You might want to be careful with that. Like attracts like. This works at the lower levels of development, but will attract angry things that like it, and want you to be angry to feed on it, and you end up with an addiction to needing anger to feel strong, and “anger management issues”. They send you illusions to distract and keep you angry and fighting instead of working on your energy.

[lustgirl]

I need to think about this carefully. In any case, at the moment I don’t have a better strategy. But if I don’t back up my words with emotion, then… how will my words have any power? Because when I just spoke words, it was absolutely useless.

I already thought that I could isolate lust itself in this way and “destroy” it with my righteous anger, but it turned out that everything was not so simple.

Anyway, that’s a VERY helpful point, thanks! I hadn’t even thought about that… that I could get parasites to play in a way that would give me the illusion that my anger was driving them away, provoke me, tempting me to use it again and again.
This is actually a very good point.

Maybe I could replace the concept of “anger” with something like “willpower,” which would evoke associations of power but without the emotional overtones? Easier said than done, though.

[lustgirl]

Well, I tried reconsider this exercise and replaced “anger” with the concept of “willpower” or “will influence”. Something like a sense of focused, intense concentration on an object, a focused pressure, through emotions, bypassing emotions.
Not through passion and emotion, but bypassing it. Pure concentration, so strong and focused that all other states fade into the background.
I imagine the object I am influencing, as if I were looking at it like a predator, with keen vision, without emotions, and I see nothing but this object.
Without color, maybe white or gray transparent light, which I associate with concentration and lack of emotions, purity.

On an associational level, I think it allows me to exert some strength while remaining focused and calm.
Perhaps with this I can “isolate” the lust within, separate it from myself and… destroy it?

Today is a complete brainstorm for me.

And I’ll remind everyone that I use this topic as a journal. I save here all my (and not only) thoughts and ideas on the topic of overcoming lust, including getting rid of sexual parasites.

[Mr.Black]

@lustgirl

I imagine the object I am influencing, as if I were looking at it like a predator, with keen vision, without emotions, and I see nothing but this object.

This is very telling as it implies a few things:

1. You see the person you are influencing as an “Object.” By focusing intensely on somelike this is, it also infers a form of “Possessiveness” and “Ownership.” This falls in line with the idea of Obsession.

2. The other implication is that you are creating Disassociation.. because at the end of the day you cannot really get rid of emotions.. basically numbing yourself to it, but at a deeper level the emotions still exist from your surface awareness. This is very common and happens naturally amongst certain crowds as its within their belief structure to “suppress” and compartmentalize sexual desire for example.

@lustgirl

On an associational level, I think it allows me to exert some strength while remaining focused and calm.
Perhaps with this I can “isolate” the lust within, separate it from myself and… destroy it?

You cannot destroy it. Let me show you why.. part of your problem is in your “Frame.”

The Title of this Forum Thread is: “Slave to Lust.. Master of the Mind.”

1. If you come from a submissive position.. then that means you are the Slave to Lust.. and being a Master of the Mind in this context means you are just self-regulating how you experience your experience.

2. If your position is that of a Dominant.. then this is where like you implied you “Disassociate” (FYI.. you are being Ruled by the demon Asmodeus).. but those who Disassociate completely ignore the fact that at Deeper Levels they are still ruled by Emotion (Beleth) the Creative Life Force. So in this scenario’s context you’ve become the Master/Mistress and instead Exported/Expedited/Projected your Lust onto your target person. So this Forum Threads Title is Double-Sided and you still stay within its Realm of Influence. You may not begin to Transmute it until you find other Creative Outlets to channel your sexual energy.

An example is that a well dressed CEO or Executive may have a clean/sterile lifestyle.. but then behind closed doors participate in “Raunchy, Ribaldy & Rowdy” sexual behavior.. respectivelly going from 7th Chakra Behavior back down to 1st/2nd Chakra Behaviors.

Want to begin to change it? So in your spiritual practice when you raise and amplify energy in the 6th/7th Chakra.. you will gain enlightened Visions/Thoughts.. then you will realize and recieve “creative ideas” to reframe the wording of this Chat Threads Title.. From being a Dominant not wearing Sexy Black Leathers to instead making other things in your life Sexy

As for your Obsession of wanting to Objectify & “OWN” your Target.. you can probably think of more refined ways to do that without it seeming like it.. and perhaps at that point they might even be into it. thats called a Magickal Binding done with finesse and requires alot of high level strategic thinking to be pulled off.

[lustgirl]

@Mr.Black

You see the person you are influencing as an “Object.”

Hey, I’m not a witch!
By “Object,” I meant the object upon which I direct and focus my attention. A parasitic spirit, a feeling (such as anger), a sensation in the body—all these are objects upon which I can direct my attention. But perhaps another person could also be called an object in some sense… it’s hard to say.

@Mr.Black

but at a deeper level the emotions still exist from your surface awareness

Yes… I guess I understand you. Perhaps it’s better for me to think of it not as “destruction” but as “separation.” So that I can look at the emotions from the outside, as if I were the pilot, and the emotions were the panel.

@Mr.Black

You may not begin to Transmute it until you find other Creative Outlets to channel your sexual energy.

got it!

@Mr.Black

Sexy Black Leathers

Sounds sweet

@Mr.Black

As for your Obsession of wanting to Objectify & “OWN” your Target.. you can probably think of more refined ways to do that without it seeming like it.. and perhaps at that point they might even be into it. thats called a Magickal Binding done with finesse and requires alot of high level strategic thinking to be pulled off.

Well, there was simply a misunderstanding. English is my third language. I can’t speak or write it properly, only read and listen. That’s why I use that damn Google Translate . So you have to keep in mind that everything I write arrives on the forum with some linguistic distortion.
By “object,” I didn’t mean a person. Maybe only a spirit or an unwanted emotional state within me.

[Theoricus]

Donald Kraig, in the Third Lesson of Modern Magick, has the IOB Ritual, Identify (visualize), Objectify (structure), Banish (send it back to where it belongs).

[lustgirl]

A small update…sabotage

I don’t know if it’s a coincidence or sabotage, but on December 1st, I couldn’t sleep or do anything all day because my lustful spirit’s activity increased exponentially. It was unexpected, but the sensations intensified significantly.

All these touches, penetrations… they didn’t bring me to climax, but they were very pleasant, real, and lasted for hours.

I couldn’t even concentrate, because when I closed my eyes, all I saw were intrusive sexual thoughts, pornographic scenes, and other images. This wasn’t normal behavior for my mind; the images themselves were intrusive, as if they were being created in my mind over my own thoughts.

I assumed this was a spirit communicating with me because when I asked him questions, my images changed. In the images, he told me his name, but it was “human” and corresponded to my favorite name.
I suspect he simply sees what I like and imitates it to gain my trust. Visual images, pornographic scenes, name, appearance, physical sensations…

These sensations are not comparable to the orgasm when I called upon Naamah for the first time, but these are the clearest sensations of my sexual connection with spirit since then.

It felt like a “magnetic penis” was penetrating me, and the touches were like magnetic waves washing over me. Once, I even felt lips or a tongue sliding over my genitals.
And I wasn’t in a dream or in the astral plane; it was all real. I still don’t remember any sexual moments or attacks in my dreams, so I suspect they’re nonexistent.

This continued all day and night on December 1st, and continues on December 2nd, although less intensely, but on December 2nd I could not restrain myself from the spirit teasing me, not even giving me an orgasm, so I watched porn again and masturbated.
Well… the first day I decided to abstain from lust and here it is… a significant increase in sexual activity from the spirit.

The banishment didn’t work. During the activity of the spirit, I cannot declare my authority, because I lose my head and begin to simply want more and more pleasure, and the spirit only teases and teases.

This is fucking hard. If this spirit wants me to leave him, he could have brought me to orgasm. Maybe then I would have been completely lost.

I lost another battle, but not the war. I will keep trying.

[lustgirl]

I Am's Solar Grounding & Banishing Ritual

This is a copy of a post cached by the Internet Archive from EvocationMagic.com, that reproduces an earlier post from Occult Forums: I Am’s Solar Grounding and Banishing Rituals Postby Vovin on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:22 pm Archived Link This was posted on Occult Forums a few years AGO i have used it and it definitely works it takes awhile to get the hang of… Solar Grounding Ritual Visualize yourself as growing very large…huge. Grow until you can put one foot on the Sun and the other on the Earth. Size DOES matter! If you can see yourself bigger than the Galaxies that is even better. See yourself in the darkness of space with your feet on the two worlds. Draw up power from the Sun into yourself and re-direct it into the Earth. Just make certain one foot (I have always put the Right foot on the Sun) is firmly planted on the Sun and the other foot is firmly planted on the Earth. You need to feel the power rising up from the Sun into your body, feel your body being infused by this energy, and then feel the power flow down the other leg into the Earth. Do this continuously for about 15 minutes. At the end of the 15 minutes, shut off the flow to the Earth while still drawing the power from the Sun. Continue this for about 1 minute. At the end of this exercise see yourself shrink down to your normal size. Do this exercise two to three times a day for the next week. This exercise should make an immediate difference in your available energy and should also ground you. I will not…

I’ll try to use something similar to this method, since my “method” was somewhat similar, but also much simpler. I think the fact that different “magicians” come up with similar techniques suggests that they can work…

And speaking of the spirit… I tried communicating with it through a pendulum. I asked questions several times, shuffling them so as not to repeat them in a row, kept my eyes closed until the pendulum stabilized, and then looked at the result. In short, I did everything I could to get the most independent and accurate results. I even added verification questions for which the answer was obviously “no.” He gave correct answers to them, too.

The problem was, he could be lying. And the very next day, the answers began to differ.
For example, I asked if Naama had sent it because I had once asked her about it in a petition. And its intense appearance almost coincided with the time I wanted to receive it. On the first day he answered “YES” 6 times out of 6! Statistically speaking, this is a very convincing result. I don’t believe it was a coincidence. But today he already says “no”. I asked other questions too, but the answers to them today are also not so precise. So I can’t trust this method anymore. Or this spirit.

The problem is, this spirit has increased my sexual desire as if I’d already been abstinent for a couple of weeks. I can’t focus on anything but him or sex.

If tomorrow is the same, the first thing I’ll do is perform a whole bunch of banishing rituals. I’ve tried a bunch of them before, but this time I’m going to do a few of them and keep trying until this fucker gets the fuck out of me.

By the way, in the questions I asked, he always answered that he was not a succubus (or incubus), but he wanted sex from me. And that he was sent by Naamah. He answered “Yes” 6 out of 6 times to the questions whether Naama sent him and whether he wanted sex from me. He also said that he could be useful to me in other ways besides sex, and also said affirmatively that he could teach me astral projection.
But… he answered “yes” several more times to my question about whether he would bring me to orgasm last night. As you can see, he screwed me over here.

But I don’t think I need this damn astral projection and sex with him if I’m going to continue feeling like a crazy bitch in heat. I have a ton of things to do, but I can’t pull myself together because all I can think about is sex, and some spirit is stimulating my entire lower pelvis.

In a way, it’s a good thing he doesn’t make me climax, although I’ll be honest, his activity and sensations have increased incredibly in the last couple of weeks. It’s like was nothing but now every couple of nights he gets stronger and it’s more and more pleasant… it only makes me want more and more, as if he’s deliberately making me dependent on him. But if he brings me to orgasm every night, then I don’t know if I can force myself to refuse that.

[Samael-Azazel]

@kiss-lamia-lilith

Tantra, in particular, provides methods to move energy from the lower to the higher chakras.

Physical Inversion: The shoulder stand pose (Sarvangasana) in yoga is cited as an effective exercise for physically redirecting sexual fluids and energy from the pelvic area toward the head.

@kiss-lamia-lilith

Connection with Nature: Spending time outdoors, walking barefoot (grounding), helps to balance root chakra energy, which provides a stable foundation for the sacral energy.

I definitely agree with these when I was still going out everyday working out before it got too cold was when I felt best. I would ride my bike to the river and do tyson-pyramid burpees in tantric meditation from downward to upward dog in between reps barefoot on the hot cement with shock training in-between sets with the ice cold water at the splash pad.

Also I do shoulder stand leg scissors and my leg lifts, flutters, and knee rises are good for more than just my ab and leg muscles in this respect as well.

[Samael-Azazel]

@lustgirl

And I think it doesn’t matter at all whether I’m a girl or a guy, or a gay guy, or a gay girl… or whatever else there is. I’m even better off and more fun if it’s a mystery.

Honestly it might be beneficial to know in order to provide more helpful advice.

[Mr.Black]

@lustgirl

Hey, I’m not a witch!
By “Object,” I meant the object upon which I direct and focus my attention. A parasitic spirit, a feeling (such as anger), a sensation in the body—all these are objects upon which I can direct my attention. But perhaps another person could also be called an object in some sense… it’s hard to say.

All women are witches; the most powerful ones are the most beautiful. Those are Satanic Witches.

@lustgirl

I suspect he simply sees what I like and imitates it to gain my trust. Visual images, pornographic scenes, name, appearance, physical sensations…

Its probably “Empathy.” Interfacing with you at the deepest unconscious levels in a sort of “Psychological MESH” as a sort of Unified Intelligence. It looks probably like mirroring, but isn’t entirely.

@lustgirl

These sensations are not comparable to the orgasm when I called upon Naamah for the first time, but these are the clearest sensations of my sexual connection with spirit since then.

Sensation Intensity = Depth of Focus = Interaction level. Perhaps a Deeper Bond and focus on specific things will increase that. This is where Spirit Bonding does matter alot. Since your clearly dealing with a Living Entity, by treating it as a real conscious being you will encourage Bonding and Interaction, bringing different results depending on you.

@lustgirl

The problem was, he could be lying. And the very next day, the answers began to differ.
For example, I asked if Naama had sent it because I had once asked her about it in a petition. And its intense appearance almost coincided with the time I wanted to receive it. On the first day he answered “YES” 6 times out of 6! Statistically speaking, this is a very convincing result. I don’t believe it was a coincidence. But today he already says “no”. I asked other questions too, but the answers to them today are also not so precise. So I can’t trust this method anymore. Or this spirit.

Some Living Entities have an Egregoric Function. The first time could of been the spirit directly. But if he had an Egregoric Function, then you may of been simply communicating with another “Living Entity Lesser Soul” under him and instead got a different answer.

Thats kind of where having advanced Psychic Senses come in, otherwise you fall into the Paranoia Trap of calling everything under the sun a Parasite. Another explanation is if its a “Living Entity,” then it naturally has preferrences, moods and other things.. so those things may shape what it says.. then you have to account for Signal Clarity (your ability to have advanced Psychic Senses and to properly translate).

@lustgirl

And I think it doesn’t matter at all whether I’m a girl or a guy, or a gay guy, or a gay girl… or whatever else there is. I’m even better off and more fun if it’s a mystery.

I have this working theory that you are not a single person, but rather a Group doing a Group Project. The “lustgirl” is simply just a Profile Overlay to an Egregore Spirit to interact with it You are probably all of those things. The question remains is which one of those wants to ride the favorite name/spirit.. ride the Happy Horse like a Good Girl

[Mulberry]

@Mr.Black

I have this working theory that you are not a single person, but rather a Group doing a Group Project.

Lol. Well, let us hope not.

It’s against the rules for multiple people to use one account - each needs to have their own. This rule came in when the change of voice - and opinion - within a couple account caused forum ructions a few years ago - it didn’t help that they argued with each other using the same username
So far, @lustgirl seems to use the same voice for all posts and I am reading them as a single person.

[Mr.Black]

@Mulberry

Lol. Well, let us hope not.

Oh to clear things up I didn’t mean it in that way. She could just be a single person with a login, but still be existing in say… … .. a Board Room or Office with groups of others (in casual conversation) discussing a group project.. while on her personal laptop (just her). Technically, she would within safe legal boundries.

I agree everyone needs their own Personal Login Profile.. and their own personal Windows Login Profile.. and their own Microsoft Teams Chat Profile

[Star-Seeker]

I advise you NOT to speak again to the spirit via a pendulum or other device. Do not try to have a conversation with it. Do not believe anything it tells you. Do not let it “teach” you things.

[Samael-Azazel]

@Mulberry

let us hope not

[lustgirl]

Well, my twin brother helped me write posts on “psychological topics” because he’s a psychologist and explained some things to me. I hope this doesn’t count as breaking the rules?